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From: Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com>
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Subject: Re: digital id
Date: 10 Jul 2025 21:28:35 GMT
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On 2025-07-08, Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> wrote:
> On 2025-07-08, badgolferman <REMOVETHISbadgolferman@gmail.com> wrote:
>> On 07/08/2025 12:14, Chris in Makati wrote:
>>> On Tue, 8 Jul 2025 11:01:17 -0400, badgolferman
>>> <REMOVETHISbadgolferman@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>>> Some states allow digital drivers licenses in Apple Wallet and even
>>>> TSA is accepting digital passports now too.  Has anyone here done
>>>> this?  What advantage have you found?  What could possibly go wrong
>>>> with this scenario?  It seems like a privacy nightmare in the
>>>> making.
>>> 
>>> I'm not sure why it would be a privacy nightmare. I would think an
>>> ID is more secure on a phone that it is in a paper format such as we
>>> have now with driver's licenses and passports. It's the same with
>>> credit cards. Apple Pay is more secure than a plastic card.
>>> 
>>> For me, the more things that can be made digital and put on a phone
>>> the better so that I don't need to carry so much around in a
>>> physical wallet.
>>
>> There are lots more bad actors capable of stealing your digital and
>> online files than there are those who can steal your physical wallet.
>> If that stuff is accessible digitally online then it's already at a
>> higher risk, regardless of encryption level.  How often do you read
>> or see on the news that the most protected data has been breached by
>> privacy thieves from thousands of miles away?  How often do people
>> get their identities stolen from a random database?  At least my
>> wallet is in my direct possession and no one will get their hands on
>> it unless they have direct physical access to it, and that would only
>> happen if I'm mugged or careless.
>
> Apple Wallet data stored in iCloud is end-to-end encrypted, and Apple
> cannot access it. You're also in full control of whether Wallet data
> is synchronized to iCloud at all. Where's this "privacy nightmare"?

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