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Path: nntp.eternal-september.org!news.eternal-september.org!eternal-september.org!feeder3.eternal-september.org!fu-berlin.de!uni-berlin.de!individual.net!not-for-mail From: JNugent <JNugent73@mail.com> Newsgroups: rec.arts.sf.written,alt.usage.english Subject: Re: The Demonization of Shakespeare Date: Wed, 16 Jul 2025 14:18:19 +0100 Organization: Home User Lines: 50 Message-ID: <mdpn4rFn1vgU1@mid.individual.net> References: <1gc5vjlp553t7n6gsf0hu569m3gbsh1rj4@4ax.com> <XnsB2BA854B08C091F3QA2@135.181.20.170> <m5jqrdFbb8oU1@mid.individual.net> <vt3dvu$esr$1@panix2.panix.com> <dcgavjh409sccegj6m655u6dbuvlqjr6b1@4ax.com> <104k62n$3q0f2$1@dont-email.me> <1054dc0$3niv2$1@dont-email.me> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Trace: individual.net cEud7MaWwKwejvJSvmaK5A9kb0lWRtiNaAnXwo4MQKvvVzizfE Cancel-Lock: sha1:wQVXfEpkFUG5VvZiWm0grzYNY6o= sha256:th4+VfHWro/FVA6vHNrZQkIr9/xLTWH6ofuR8p3hOh8= User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.3; WOW64; rv:24.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/24.1.0 In-Reply-To: <1054dc0$3niv2$1@dont-email.me> X-Antivirus: AVG (VPS 250716-2, 7/16/2025), Outbound message X-Antivirus-Status: Clean On 15/07/2025 03:11 AM, Cryptoengineer wrote: > On 7/8/2025 6:28 PM, Robert Carnegie wrote: >> On 08/04/2025 16:49, Paul S Person wrote: >>> <snippo Shakespeare examples of what the alt-right calls "woke"> >>> <I should note that is has always been my understanding (probably from >>> something I was told or read) that Romeo and Juliet would have been >>> about 13, but who can say for sure?> >> >> I seem to remember that in several U.S. states, >> that isn't a problem. >> >> However, "Juliet" originally is a boy actor >> in a dress. This could be brought up. >> >> In some British actor's recent memoir that >> I heard on radio, I've forgotten who, the >> school drama was similarly cast, since that's >> all that they had. I also don't remember if >> he was Juliet or Cleopatra or Lady Macbeth, >> but apparently the male lead role was a >> good-looking young man. >> >> Ian McKellen? >> >> Gregory Doran? > > Last night, I watched an episode of 'The Sandman' > in which there is included parts of a > Shakespeare-contemporaneous production of 'A > Midsummer Night's Dream' The female parts are > played by young men. > > I know this is historically accurate, but I don't > remember seeing it done this way in any other modern > film or TV adaption. Maybe not quite "modern" enough, but all Elizabethan theatrical conventions were portrayed accurately in the ATV / ITC six-part drama series of 1978 (made in 1977): "Will Shakespeare". This was quite clear about the casting of boys as female characters. Jack Rice (played by Ron Cook) wanted never to play anything but female parts. I know it has been shown in the USA because I managed to obtain a university-published set of VHS NTSC recordings of the series a decade or two back. That item was eventually rendered redundant by the release of the series on a UK DVD box-set a few years ago. <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Will_Shakespeare_(TV_series)>