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From: John B. <slocombjb@gmail.com>
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Subject: Re: Let's hide the bicyclists behind parked cars. What could go wrong?
Date: Tue, 14 Jan 2025 19:26:22 +0700
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On Tue, 14 Jan 2025 05:58:05 -0500, Catrike Ryder
<Soloman@old.bikers.org> wrote:

>On Tue, 14 Jan 2025 09:01:36 +0700, John B. <slocombjb@gmail.com>
>wrote:
>
>>On Mon, 13 Jan 2025 12:24:29 -0500, Catrike Ryder
>><Soloman@old.bikers.org> wrote:
>>
>>>On Mon, 13 Jan 2025 11:46:23 -0500, Frank Krygowski
>>><frkrygow@sbcglobal.net> wrote:
>>>
>>>>On 1/13/2025 12:41 AM, Roger Merriman wrote:
>>>>> Frank Krygowski <frkrygow@sbcglobal.net> wrote:
>>>>>> On 1/12/2025 4:30 PM, Roger Merriman wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I’m bit baffled personally that this is an issue? It’s even in the uk
>>>>>>> Highway Code I’m not aware of it being changed ie the advice has always
>>>>>>> been to ride in the center of the lane, moving left to allow other vehicles
>>>>>>> to pass if safe to do so.
>>>>>> Well, like me, you've bothered to look into the actual legal aspects and
>>>>>> the advice given by legitimate cycling education programs.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> We have several people here who have not bothered to do that minimal
>>>>>> research, because they already "know" everything.
>>>>>>
>>>>> 
>>>>> No I suspect I’m relatively low % of folks who have looked at it, but in
>>>>> general it’s the advice other cyclists give and even non cyclists seem to
>>>>> mostly do it, ie cultural for want of better word.
>>>>
>>>>I mentioned this here maybe 5 years ago, but: One local guy who was 
>>>>pretty well known from his participation in some civic organizations 
>>>>lost his wife. He was just a path rider, but he decided to deal with his 
>>>>loss by bicycling down to visit his daughter in Florida. Someone told 
>>>>him to ask me for advice.
>>>
>>>>So he visited and we talked. He rode a very upright "comfort bike." I 
>>>>think my main piece of advice was that his path riding wasn't sufficient 
>>>>training, and that he should be doing some hills, because he couldn't 
>>>>reach Florida without climbing serious hills. I'm sure I said something 
>>>>about our rights to the road, about taking the lane, etc. but it wasn't 
>>>>the biggest part of our conversation.
>>>>
>>>>Anyway, I decided to show up for his official departure from a local 
>>>>shopping plaza and ride a bit with him. I was shocked to see that his 
>>>>supporters had called in a TV crew. I greeted him, but did my best to 
>>>>stay out of the picture.
>>>
>>><LOL>  Sure you did.....
>>>
>>>>But we did ride off together, on the busy four lane highway I sometimes 
>>>>mention here - one that many bike club members would refuse to ride. He 
>>>>planted himself firmly in the middle of the right lane and sailed on 
>>>>with a smile on his face. As usual, motorists handled it perfectly with 
>>>>no aggression, no complaints. We rode together for maybe 10 or 15 miles, 
>>>>long after the road became a two lane with 55 mph speed limits. Then I 
>>>>turned back for home, and he rode on to Florida. He made the trip in 
>>>>fine shape.
>>>
>>>Krygowski can make up a story for every occasion.
>>>
>>>With a narcissist it comes down to this:
>>>
>>>Every conversation,
>>>every situation,
>>>every interaction,
>>>every moment,
>>>is all about him
>>
>>There are people that have fallen or jumped out of an airplane at high
>>altitudes. The record seems to be "Vesna Vulovic",  a   Serbian flight
>>attendant who survived the highest fall without a parachute: 10.16
>>kilometres (6.31 miles) or 33,338 feet.
>>
>>However, unlike Frankie,  I'd be a bit reluctant to recommend it for a
>>daily practice.
>
>In addition to writing fiction, I read a lot of fiction. I have a list
>of authors that I like, and another list of authors that I cannot
>tolerate. One of the things I cannot tolerate is when a story defies
>logic. Another is when the writer goes on and on with unessential
>information, believing apparently, that readers will be more likely to
>buy onto it if they know what kind of bicycle the guy rode, when, why,
>and where he began his ride and that reporters showed up to see him
>off. It's a sure sign that the writer is telling a contrived story
>rather than relating an event, and of course, a good book is more like
>relating events rather than like telling stories.
>
>Krygowski is a teller of illogical stories, and he doesn't just tell
>fantasy stories, he lives in his fantasy stories. He's also, in my
>opinion, not a very good writer.


I've read "Moby Dick" several times. Not because I think it is a great
book but because it gives considerable detailed accounts about the
whaling industry of the 1800's.
-- 
Cheers,

John B.