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Subject: Re: Don't Fall for the Fiction on Firearm Suppressors
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[Default]  "max headroom" <maximusheadroom@gmx.com> typed:

>Don't Fall for the Fiction on Firearm Suppressors
>
>Owen Miller
>
>It comes as no surprise that in the aftermath of the tragic murder of United
>Healthcare CEO Brian Thompson, there is significant misinformation circulating
>via social media that could undermine the rights of millions of law-abiding
>citizens.
>
> The assailant apparently used a homemade, 3-D printed gun and 3-D printed sound
>reducing accessory known as a suppressor - some call the device a silencer. If
>true, the criminal faces serious charges for his actions. Under federal law, it
>is illegal to manufacturer a suppression device without properly registering it
>with ATF. Doing so carries a possible 10-year sentence and a $250,000 fine.
>Using a suppressor in the commission of a crime is also a federal offense and
>carries a mandatory 30-year prison term.
>
>It is also important to understand that no device will ever make a gun
>completely silent. Guns are simply too loud. At least one person close to Mr.
>Thompson at the time of the crime reported hearing the assailant's gunshots.
>Suppressors do not cancel out the sound of a firearm as some activists would
>wrongly have you believe. Rather, these legal firearm accessories only reduce
>the sound of a gunshot.
>
>Even the most effective suppressors reduce the peak sound level of a gunshot to
>around 110 - 120 decibels. To put that in perspective, that is as loud as a
>jackhammer (110 dB) or an ambulance siren (120 dB) according to the National
>Institute for Occupational Safety and Health (NIOSH).
>
>The National Hearing Conservation Association (NHCA) wrote a letter in 2019
>outlining their support for suppressors as a tool to help curb preventable
>hearing damage:
>
>"Although firearm suppressors do not completely eliminate the risk of
>[noise-induced hearing loss] from firearm noise, the risk can be significantly
>reduced.Therefore, NHCA supports the use of firearm noise suppressors as a form
>of an engineering noise control to reduce hazardous firearm noise exposures."
>
>The Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) was commissioned in 2011 to
>assess the level of noise exposure for federal government agents at an outdoor
>shooting range. The scientists assigned to the study concluded:
>
>"...the only potentially effective noise control method to reduce students' or
>instructors' noise exposure from gunfire is through the use of noise suppressors
>that can be attached to the end of the gun barrel."
>
>Today, there are nearly four million lawfully obtained suppressors in
>circulation and their use has bipartisan support. In 2013, Montana Governor
>Steve Bullock (D) held the misconception that suppressors could completely
>silence firearms, but once he became properly educated on the issue, he reversed
>course and urged the Montana legislature to legalize their use for hunting:
>
>"Suppressors mitigate the sound of a shot, but do not silence it. The use of
>suppressors for hunting, when hunters cannot wear ear protection because they
>need to be aware of their surroundings, can help protect against hearing loss.
>This is especially true for our younger hunters, even those who are not actually
>hunting but are accompanying their parent in the field."
>
>Gov. Bullock's change of opinion was not ideological, it was educational.
>
>And the use of suppressors by criminals is virtually nonexistent. Ronald Turk, a
>former Associate Deputy Director and Chief Operating Officer of the Bureau of
>Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives (ATF), stated:
>
>"...silencers are very rarely used in criminal shootings. Given the lack of
>criminality associated with silencers, it is reasonable to conclude that they
>should not be viewed as a threat to public safety."
>
>Furthermore, using a suppressor in the commission of a crime will carry stiff
>State and Federal penalties. At the Federal level, using a suppressor in the
>commission of a crime carries a 30-year mandatory prison sentence. Very few laws
>are more punitive than this.
>
>Suppressors are legally used by millions of hunters and shooting enthusiasts who
>rely on these safety devices for much needed hearing protection. Spreading
>misinformation or engaging in scare tactics in the wake of this high-profile
>crime will do nothing to address the issue of curbing violence in New York City
>or elsewhere else in America. This recent tragedy cannot be used to erode the
>constitutional rights of millions of law-abiding citizens to own and use their
>firearms with the safety features of their choice.
>
>Owen Miller is Vice President of the American Suppressor Association
>
>https://www.realclearpolicy.com/articles/2024/12/12/dont_fall_for_the_fiction_on_firearm_suppressors_1078184.html 
>

I should also like to draw attention to
https://www.sportsmanguncentre.co.uk/
Sportsman Gun Center, the United Kingdom's largest gun store.

They boast an extensive selection of suppressors at fairly decent
prices.
https://www.sportsmanguncentre.co.uk/guns-and-moderators/moderators/centrefire-moderators
https://www.sportsmanguncentre.co.uk/guns-and-moderators/moderators/rimfire-moderators