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From: Catrike Ryder <Soloman@old.bikers.org>
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On Fri, 23 May 2025 22:38:39 -0400, Frank Krygowski
<frkrygow@sbcglobal.net> wrote:

>On 5/23/2025 1:26 PM, AMuzi wrote:
>> On 5/23/2025 10:00 AM, Frank Krygowski wrote:
>>> On 5/22/2025 10:38 PM, Frank Krygowski wrote:
>>>> On 5/22/2025 8:29 PM, AMuzi wrote:
>>>>> I'm not big on battery vehicles which are inherently inefficient. 
>>>>> They outsource energy to remote power plants and outsource pollution 
>>>>> and other downsides to other countries...
>>>>
>>>> There are serious technical mistakes in those sentences.
>>>
>>> See https://www.motortrend.com/news/evs-more-efficient-than- internal- 
>>> combustion-engines  for example.
>>>
>> 
>> Nice comparison, and correct as for as it goes.
>> No dispute with any of that, comparing last-step efficiencies of the two 
>> formats.
>
>It's not just "last step." Read the article down to the part about 
>replacing gasoline with coal, or with natural gas. ""Even if the grid 
>were entirely fueled by coal, 31% less energy would be needed to charge 
>EVs than to fuel gasoline cars. If EVs were charged by natural gas, the 
>total energy demand for highway transportation would fall by nearly 
>half. Add in hydropower or other renewables, and the result gets even 
>better, saving up to three-fourths of the energy currently used by 
>gasoline-powered vehicles,"


Looks like Motor Trend has been bought and paid for by the EV folks.
It never was a magazine devoted to assisting the average automobile
owner, but it was nice to look at all the pretty pictures of supercars
while waiting your turn at the dentist office.

--
C'est bon
Soloman