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From: John B. <slocombjb@gmail.com>
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Subject: Re: Montana: "Let's make stupidity mandatory!"
Date: Fri, 17 Jan 2025 17:38:58 +0700
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On Fri, 17 Jan 2025 03:46:05 -0500, Catrike Ryder
<Soloman@old.bikers.org> wrote:

>On Fri, 17 Jan 2025 14:31:12 +0700, John B. <slocombjb@gmail.com>
>wrote:
>
>>On Thu, 16 Jan 2025 22:53:38 -0800, Jeff Liebermann <jeffl@cruzio.com>
>>wrote:
>>
>>>On Fri, 17 Jan 2025 09:01:19 +0700, John B. <slocombjb@gmail.com>
>>>wrote:
>>>
>>>>As I've said, the best way to win an election is to say, "When elected
>>>>I will give you...."
>>>>(Or, I'll make America Great again :-)
>>>
>>>That doesn't really work.  The presidential election is decided by the
>>>electoral college, not the popular vote.  Swaying the GUM (great
>>>unwashed masses) might work in a state that bases its electoral
>>>college vote on its popular vote.  However, the real action is in the
>>>"swing" states, where the electoral vote might be almost equally
>>>divided between two candidates and where "swinging" the vote will give
>>>one candidate ALL the electoral votes for that state.
>>>
>>>Most of the election corruption I've seen was intended to be effective
>>>at the local (city and county) levels.  There may have been some at
>>>the state and federal level, but I didn't see those.  For example, one
>>>local election ended up with more votes being cast than there were
>>>eligible voters.  The same county managed to inflate the number of
>>>apartments in the larger apartment buildings and provide long lists of
>>>phantom registered voters.  Using the voter registration lists of the
>>>time, I drove to a likely apartment building and compared the list
>>>with reality, which produced a large discrepancy.  
>>
>>Yes I know the difference between electoral  and popular votes and I
>>do know that the electoral elects the president and in most cases the
>>electrical vote matches the poplar vote although I believe there are
>>times when it doesn't. But I also read that in many cases where the
>>member of thee electoral collage did not vote as his state "The rare
>>elector who votes for someone else may be fined, disqualified, and
>>replaced by a substitute elector. Or they may even be prosecuted by
>>their state."
>>
>>As for unregistered voters. How does one prove that they really are 
>>"Jeff Liebermann"? You don't have national identity cards?.
>
>Picture ID.

And where do you get that? I'm really asking as when I lived in the
U.S. I never saw a civilian photo ID and when I'd show my Military ID
card they'd say, "What's that?"
-- 
Cheers,

John B.