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Path: ...!eternal-september.org!feeder3.eternal-september.org!news.eternal-september.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: Paul S Person <psperson@old.netcom.invalid> Newsgroups: rec.arts.sf.written Subject: Re: The insane corruption nobody is talking about Date: Wed, 03 Jul 2024 08:41:52 -0700 Organization: A noiseless patient Spider Lines: 53 Message-ID: <mjra8jhpabjkjltvi26n6ep0qsk9984etl@4ax.com> References: <slrnv760nq.ve1.naddy@lorvorc.mips.inka.de> <v5knpl$ss2$1@panix2.panix.com> <v5lceq$2f17$1@usenet.csail.mit.edu> <nult7jlrj1697gnkmo2dmhhd8tmr2utfra@4ax.com> <v5mldu$m1e$1@reader1.panix.com> <v62m43$21vdf$3@dont-email.me> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Injection-Date: Wed, 03 Jul 2024 17:41:57 +0200 (CEST) Injection-Info: dont-email.me; posting-host="73d3747b553529743e1c1eaa2b718106"; logging-data="2371667"; mail-complaints-to="abuse@eternal-september.org"; posting-account="U2FsdGVkX18N5hGhmOfe4c1Xs4wzJANlIZS/eenJYEw=" User-Agent: ForteAgent/8.00.32.1272 Cancel-Lock: sha1:OAXpzQXYUC4otBpciKFADIeH9WI= Bytes: 3235 On Wed, 3 Jul 2024 17:04:03 +1200, Titus G <noone@nowhere.com> wrote: >On 29/06/24 03:38, James Nicoll wrote: >(Subject The insane progress nobody is talking about) >> In article <nult7jlrj1697gnkmo2dmhhd8tmr2utfra@4ax.com>, >> Paul S Person <psperson@old.netcom.invalid> wrote: >snip > >>> Perhaps a thorough audit focused on where the money is going (ie, how >>> many brothers-in-law of various officials are getting the contracts) >>> would help. >>> >>> This is /exactly/ the sort of task a sane Republican would seem to be >>> ideal for. > >> There are no sane Republicans, nor uncorrupt.=20 > >Corruption is now legal in the US after the ruling authored by Kavanaugh >in Snyder v United States last week. >( https://www.supremecourt.gov/opinions/23pdf/23-108_8n5a.pdf ) > >In summary a bribe is organised and paid prior to some desired behaviour >so the court determined that any post-facto payments are simply >gratuities and therefore not illegal. Well, a bribe /is/ something that is paid (or at least promised) first.=20 >A small town mayor, Snyder, asked for $13,000 from a company AFTER it >was awarded a town contract, was convicted but now absolved by the >Supreme Court of which some members have received substantial benefits >from billionaire friends whose interests they protect and assist being >similar to their own. This sounds more like extortion. Or a kick-back. Perhaps the prosecutor should have paid more attention to what a "bribe" is in the context of our legal tradition. And found a charge that actually fit the case. And, if appropriate, instructed the Grand Jury properly. Sloppiness really isn't a positive character trait. I am taking it for granted here that no agreement reached prior to the award of the contract.=20 As to the dubious morals of some Supreme Court members:=20 if the Supremes can do it, the Mayor can do it.=20 Corruption starts from the top. --=20 "Here lies the Tuscan poet Aretino, Who evil spoke of everyone but God, Giving as his excuse, 'I never knew him.'"