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From: Paul S Person <psperson@old.netcom.invalid>
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Subject: Re: Most disappointing films.
Date: Sat, 15 Mar 2025 08:35:04 -0700
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On Fri, 14 Mar 2025 21:31:58 +0000, Robert Carnegie
<rja.carnegie@gmail.com> wrote:

>On 05/03/2025 16:46, Paul S Person wrote:
>> I saw /The Empire Strikes Back/ last night. The two-seater aircraft
>> (pilot and gunner, back to back) used to attack Imperial Walkers
>> towards the start of the film are "Rogue 2", Rogue 3", and Rogue 4",
>> per the credits not just on IMDb but shown on the film itself --
>> which, BTW, is the original unaltered LD version Lucas grudgingly
>> allowed to be put out on an extras disk. Hey, at least it letterboxed!
>> No "Rogue 1" is listed, but then, that call sign was no doubt retired
>> after the events in /Rogue One/.
>
>I think it may be that #1 is (1) "Rogue Leader"
>and (2) a named character.  I think Luke is in
>that fight but in an X-Wing?

If one were to go to
<https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0080684/fullcredits/?ref_=3Dtt_cst_sm> and
search on "rogue", one would find "Rogue 1", "Rogue 2", and "Rogue 3"
but no "Rogue Leader".=20

Luke is in a two-person fighter. His gunner (Dak) is listed, as are
the other two gunners. Attempts to find a model number have been
unavailing, no doubt due to my normal lack of search skills. The
phrases I tried all led to /star/fighters, and I'm not sure these were
space-capable. Why would a gunner with a harpoon be needed in space?
We see in the movie how useful they are against Imperial Walkers.

When he evacuates Hoth, he does indeed switch to an X-Wing. He is
shown doing this; it isn't that he is suddenly in space with Dak's
corpse still in the rear seat.
--=20
"Here lies the Tuscan poet Aretino,
Who evil spoke of everyone but God,
Giving as his excuse, 'I never knew him.'"