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From: Snidely <snidely.too@gmail.com>
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Subject: Re: The antics of thermodynamics, the depravity of relativity, the bunkum of quantum
Date: Tue, 11 Mar 2025 04:47:06 -0700
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Peter Moylan blurted out:
> On 11/03/25 15:05, Snidely wrote:
>> Thus spake Peter Moylan:
>>
>>> At the centre of the earth, you also have to taken into account the
>>> radially directed non-gravitational  force that comes from the
>>> weight of all the rocks (and so on) above your head.
>>
>> Say what?  "non-graviational" from "weight"?
>
> Perhaps I should have phrased that better. Consider a hypothetical cave
> explorer at a distance r from the centre of the earth. The gravitational
> force experienced by that person, i.e. that person's weight, is that due
> to the sphere of radius r below him. The gravitational attraction
> between the person and the earth is not affected by that part of the
> earth at greater radii.

No, because the gravitational attraction between the person and the 
earth is the /vector/ sum of the attraction between each part of the 
person and each part of the earth, and some of those parts of the earth 
are in the opposite direction of the ones below the person (and many of 
in oblique direction).

>
> That point is agreed by everyone here.

no

> However there is another relevant force. The roof of the cave is
> supporting the weight of the material above it. (And it is a weight, so
> I shouldn't have called it non-gravitational. But it's different from
> the weight of the cave explorer.) As long as the roof doesn't collapse,
> that force doesn't affect the explorer. Go deep enough, though, and that
> second weight is big enough so that the roof will indeed collapse,

does that happen before or after magmafication?

> so our explorer will (very briefly) experience it. Deep underground, the
> pressure is so high that no voids can exist. 

I can't imagine something that would cause cavitation in the core, 
true.

> No caves, so no journey to
> the centre of the earth.

I certainly agree to that.

/dps

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