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From: Snidely <snidely.too@gmail.com>
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Subject: Re: Word of the day: "ithyphallic"
Date: Thu, 19 Sep 2024 13:48:38 -0700
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Snidely used thar keyboard to writen:
> On Thursday, J. J. Lodder pointed out that ...
>> occam <occam@nowhere.nix> wrote:
>>
>>> On 19/09/2024 06:59, Aidan Kehoe wrote:
>>>> Another one that stuck for me was "metic", "resident foreigner in a
>>>> Greek city state," apparently not related to meticulous.
>>> 
>>> Try 'hermetic' as a related concept. A 'foreigner' in ancient Greek was
>>> someone from another city state, even if that was a city in Greece.
>>> 'Greece' did not become an entity until much later.
>>
>> Depends on what you want 'entity' to mean.
>> Those ancient Greeks certainly saw themselves as a cultural entity,
>> with a shared language and culture. This extended to 'Greater Greece'.
>> It was only the narrow sense of a political entity that was
>> inconceivable to them,
>>
>> Jan
>
> I have a better sense of how Egypt came to be a cultural entity than I do for 
> Greece.  On the one hand, the political development of the winning Pharoahs 
> is easy to read about; on the other, my histories of Greece generally begin 
> with the last king of Athens and the rise of the early democracy, which seems 
> to be well after there were several city-states that considered themselves to 
> be Greek.
>
> /dps

And so I turn to the rabbit hole:
<URL:https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mycenaean_Greece>

-d

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