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From: shawn <nanoflower@notforg.m.a.i.l.com>
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Subject: Re: OT: The Art Of Poison-Pilling Music Files
Date: Wed, 16 Apr 2025 18:47:51 -0400
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On Wed, 16 Apr 2025 11:26:00 -0700, anim8rfsk <anim8rfsk@cox.net>
wrote:

>shawn <nanoflower@notforg.m.a.i.l.com> wrote:
>> On Wed, 16 Apr 2025 16:41:50 -0000 (UTC), BTR1701 <atropos@mac.com>
>> wrote:
>> 
>>> On Apr 16, 2025 at 9:24:22 AM PDT, "shawn" <nanoflower@notforg.m.a.i.l.com>
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>>> This is both great and scary. The idea is that you can encode messages
>>>> into music or other sounds that an AI can pick up that no human would
>>>> notice. In this video the designer goes into how he introduces the
>>>> poison pills that do things like tell Alexa or Siri to do things while
>>>> sounding perfectly normal to us.
>>>> 
>>>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xMYm2d9bmEA
>>>> The Art Of Poison-Pilling Music Files
>>>> 
>>>> He has an example of what sounds like a simple song from someone
>>>> playing a piano. Nothing at all unusual in how it sounds. Yet the AI
>>>> picks up a series of instructions and pops up a video. As he points
>>>> out this could easily be an instruction to unlock all your doors.
>>> 
>>> Which wouldn't matter to people like me whose doors lock the old fashioned
>>> way: when a human turns the bolt.
>>> 
>> 
>> It's the best way. I never understood why someone would want to make
>> their home so dependent on voice technology unless they were somehow
>> limited. 
>
>I’ve been looking into it. At some point, I’m going to need to call for
>help and not be able to get to the door and once the fireman break the door
>in to get to me how do they secure the house?

I don't know how it works but I recall there are systems in place
where Amazon or other delivery services can get into your garage to
drop off packages and then it locks up afterwards. Not sure if that is
applicable to your home doors but seems like a potential solution.

>I imagine there’s somewayto have one of those watches that automatically
>calls for help when you fall unlock the door for you at the same time.

Then you drop the watch while getting ready for a shower and the door
is unlocked but you don't realize it.

>The flipside is that it would be nice to lock the door remotely if you
>don’t usually leave it locked.
>
>