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Path: ...!eternal-september.org!feeder3.eternal-september.org!news.eternal-september.org!eternal-september.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: john larkin <jl@glen--canyon.com> Newsgroups: sci.electronics.design Subject: Re: UCC33420 dc/dc converter eval Date: Wed, 09 Apr 2025 17:19:45 -0700 Organization: A noiseless patient Spider Lines: 49 Message-ID: <mo2evj50dh5rpp9usocjc7c6qlj0uj7t4b@4ax.com> References: <qerdvjtlphmh0hfkec83dqsh9h88vlgp29@4ax.com> <vt70qj$1nblm$1@dont-email.me> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Injection-Date: Thu, 10 Apr 2025 02:14:04 +0200 (CEST) Injection-Info: dont-email.me; posting-host="f738790c1cd5384201c83c7d9219c149"; logging-data="1860766"; mail-complaints-to="abuse@eternal-september.org"; posting-account="U2FsdGVkX1+LZ4wAtmmFCjtXj8fccfkz" User-Agent: ForteAgent/8.00.32.1272 Cancel-Lock: sha1:aN6qBmDT0zQgIb5FNR6sfNbcPNM= Bytes: 2564 On Wed, 9 Apr 2025 23:45:23 -0000 (UTC), Phil Hobbs <pcdhSpamMeSenseless@electrooptical.net> wrote: >john larkin <jl@glen--canyon.com> wrote: >> >> >> My TI rep was being difficult, so I just bought an eval board from >> Digikey for $100. >> >> It makes a nice 4.993 volt output, but it's wicked noisy. >> >> https://www.dropbox.com/scl/fo/8fybyu5l3w4tdgt1y0386/AFunYi9K15UgNpkQzEbYaVA?rlkey=j261b4ca5kc966vq2y03fw0md&dl=0 >> >> 53% efficient into that 0.25 watt load. >> >> > >Yikes, what a piece of junk. Small maybe, but lots of parts needed for >cleanup. > >What does it do to the input rail? > >Cheers > >Phil Hobbs I didn't scope the input rail. I expect it has lots of noise and DC load in bursts. The architecture seems to be a simple forward converter with lots of step-up, and regulates bang-bang in inefficient bursts. I expect that if I reduced the input voltage, it woud get more efficient as the bursts approach 100% duty cycle and it starts to lose regulation. I took the rig down. It won't work in my application, as a high side gate drive supply in a GaN half-bridge. Way too noisy. I love the idea of a tiny cheap dc/dc converter on a chip, but not this one. $100 for this eval board is silly too. It comes with a generic application brochure that says "go to the web site" I now have, in theory, threeTI support engineers, whose universal support is "go to the forums." I remember in the olden days when our TI guys would show up with a briefcase full of data books and unexpected new samples.