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Path: ...!fu-berlin.de!uni-berlin.de!individual.net!not-for-mail From: Wolfgang Strobl <news5@mystrobl.de> Newsgroups: rec.bicycles.tech Subject: Re: Some bicycle paths... Date: Tue, 23 Jul 2024 16:58:12 +0200 Organization: @home Lines: 43 Message-ID: <moev9jtvq9198p73n6k53078adr05ikjb5@4ax.com> References: <v7cg74$2m0u1$1@dont-email.me> <2fgl9jllnpupls312ff7aldn0i0p748sjn@4ax.com> <4jfp9j9bvq45u8siqmr4btg7oau3hvb0dp@4ax.com> <j4hp9j16530107kqsgkps1n08885i9ebei@4ax.com> <8x8nO.350505$Liga.24156@fx15.ams4> <8c7s9jl8bej1lbmiipnnkh40g7pgq9om75@4ax.com> <jZvnO.192691$kXJb.24670@fx03.ams4> <9bdt9jpjs0ioq8ip18o0nd10mlon5akhse@4ax.com> <OuNnO.242206$J6gc.228181@fx09.ams4> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Trace: individual.net eR5Mgsc6o4xD53gm/sGRDABBCaN4pj6RLKkDpUH9u5Haeln47x X-Orig-Path: mystrobl.de!not-for-mail Cancel-Lock: sha1:+aRNSJdj5/IGkALkrKhB9W8IlCA= sha256:pd43KSLSoD2MC1358FNd7Apg/YqH1d/pBJNthBAOGjY= User-Agent: ForteAgent/8.00.32.1272 Bytes: 3102 Am Tue, 23 Jul 2024 12:38:06 GMT schrieb Roger Merriman <roger@sarlet.com>: >Wolfgang Strobl <news5@mystrobl.de> wrote: >> Am Mon, 22 Jul 2024 16:41:51 GMT schrieb Roger Merriman >> <roger@sarlet.com>: >> >>> In the UK that ie “Mandatory” only applies to motor traffic, bikes can ride >>> where ever legally and for most part in practice. >> >> So in essence, in the UK, mandatory bike lanes aren't mandatory, right? >> >> Strange. What would you call a mandatory bike lane, then? Voluntary? >> >> >It’s a bike lane, the mandatory or not be is only related to motorists, All >of such types are older magic paint generally tik box exercise so stuff >that at best is Meh at worse is ignored. You didn't answer my question. Imagine a lane on the road that is marked in such a way that it is mandatory to use this lane, when riding a bicycle. Germany, France and many other European countries have more than on way of doing that. This sign <https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Datei:Zeichen_237_-_Sonderweg_Radfahrer,_StVO_1992.svg>, obliges cyclists to use the right-hand lane of a road marked in this way, and it implies a ban on using the the other parts of the road by bike. Sidepaths marked in a similary way are handled in the same way, you must use these, as a cyclist, instead of using the road. How would you call a bicycle lane so marked? I call these mandatory, they are bicycle lanes mandatory for bicyclists. For illustration, this is a quite recent streetview photo of such a bicycle lane in my home town, part of my former commute. <https://www.google.de/maps/@50.735366,7.1052758,3a,75y,345.37h,78.58t/data=!3m7!1e1!3m5!1stSQFnCmubeCCT3NcbxPfwA!2e0!6shttps:%2F%2Fstreetviewpixels-pa.googleapis.com%2Fv1%2Fthumbnail%3Fpanoid%3DtSQFnCmubeCCT3NcbxPfwA%26cb_client%3Dmaps_sv.share%26w%3D900%26h%3D600%26yaw%3D345.3653731279749%26pitch%3D11.420637510237043%26thumbfov%3 D90!7i16384!8i8192?coh=205410&entry=ttu> -- Thank you for observing all safety precautions