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Subject: Re: ABC settles "rape" claim re: Pres. Elect.
Date: Wed, 25 Dec 2024 11:32:22 -0500
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On Tue, 24 Dec 2024 15:49:20 -0500, moviePig <nobody@nowhere.com>
wrote:

>On 12/24/2024 7:36 AM, NoBody wrote:
>> On Mon, 23 Dec 2024 11:43:15 -0500, moviePig <nobody@nowhere.com>
>> wrote:
>> 
>>> On 12/23/2024 7:24 AM, NoBody wrote:
>>>> On Sun, 22 Dec 2024 13:20:30 -0500, moviePig <nobody@nowhere.com>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> On 12/22/2024 10:26 AM, NoBody wrote:
>>>>>> On Sat, 21 Dec 2024 11:28:18 -0500, moviePig <nobody@nowhere.com>
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On 12/21/2024 10:21 AM, NoBody wrote:
>>>>>>>> On Fri, 20 Dec 2024 13:10:29 -0500, moviePig <nobody@nowhere.com>
>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On 12/20/2024 6:59 AM, NoBody wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> On Thu, 19 Dec 2024 12:19:59 -0500, moviePig <nobody@nowhere.com>
>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> On 12/19/2024 7:31 AM, NoBody wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>> On Thu, 19 Dec 2024 01:31:39 -0000 (UTC), "Adam H. Kerman"
>>>>>>>>>>>> <ahk@chinet.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> BTR1701 <no_email@invalid.invalid> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> suzeeq <suzeeq@imbris.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 12/18/2024 4:28 AM, NoBody wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Tue, 17 Dec 2024 11:57:19 -0500, moviePig <nobody@nowhere.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> . . .
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Your President-elect forcibly finger fucked her.  Explain *that* fact.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Trump was not convicted of rape.  ABC said he was.  They lied.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> End of story.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> In other jurisdictions it's considered rape/
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> But he wasn't in other jurisdictions.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> The harm to Donald Trump wws nominal. not $15 million worth.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> ABC obviously felt otherwise given that they caved so quickly.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Umm... giant corporations don't piss off sitting Presidents, especially
>>>>>>>>>>> not one who's vengeance-driven.  It's bad business.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Enough about Biden.  What about Trump?  BTW Trump is not yet the
>>>>>>>>>> sitting President and it never stopped the media before so your claim
>>>>>>>>>> is ridiculous.  ABC was caught in libel and paid big time.  End of
>>>>>>>>>> story.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Not the "end of story" just because you stop reading.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> You're welcome to explain it us how a jury finding Trump not guilty of
>>>>>>>> rape makes him guilty of it.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Laugher.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> There's legal guilt, and then there's understood guilt.  Trump escapes
>>>>>>> the former only by a specific distinction in a specific jurisdiction.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Good grief.  You can't state that someone was convicted of rape when
>>>>>> they weren't.  That's libel.
>>>>>
>>>>> Yes, if you knew they weren't.  And iirc he said "found *liable* for
>>>>> rape", not "convicted" ...which may have been raised as relevant.
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Are you now trying to say that Boy George gave an interview without
>>>> doing his homework?
>>>
>>> No, as I understand it, his homework was even done *for* him.  But he
>>> chose to describe Trump as harshly as possible.  It's unclear what
>>> verdict a full reckoning -- i.e., no "settlement" -- would've given.
>>>
>> 
>> To state that he was convicted of rape is not a description.  It's a
>> claim of fact, which is why ABC is paying big bucks.
>
>Again, he said "found *liable* for rape", not "convicted".  And, again, 
>it's unclear whether that difference might've borne out as important.
>

He was not convicted nor "iiable" for rape.  The judge in the civil
case was wrong on the law as much as you are.  It's a shame you can't
sue judges cause that would be fantastic.