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From: John Larkin <jl@997PotHill.com>
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Subject: Re: power shortages
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On Fri, 08 Mar 2024 16:01:56 GMT, Jan Panteltje <alien@comet.invalid>
wrote:

>On a sunny day (Fri, 08 Mar 2024 07:09:39 -0800) it happened John Larkin
><jl@997PotHill.com> wrote in <ebamui94of6duifghmb6jnen11060l4dlv@4ax.com>:
>
>>On Fri, 08 Mar 2024 13:15:34 GMT, Jan Panteltje <alien@comet.invalid>
>>wrote:
>>
>>>On a sunny day (Fri, 8 Mar 2024 10:22:29 +0100) it happened Jeroen Belleman
>>><jeroen@nospam.please> wrote in <usela5$1jtre$1@dont-email.me>:
>>>
>>>>On 3/8/24 07:40, Jan Panteltje wrote:
>>>>> On a sunny day (Thu, 07 Mar 2024 07:13:56 -0800) it happened John Larkin
>>>>> <jl@997PotHill.com> wrote in <h8mjui5kf50de3tkplpf1e12k12r8dgl58@4ax.com>:
>>>>> 
>>>>>>
>>>>>> https://www.msn.com/en-us/money/companies/amid-explosive-demand-america-is-running-out-of-power/ar-BB1jtM69
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Increasing demand and declining reliable supply could put people in
>>>>>> the dark.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Yesterday I was reading Netherlands gov has decided to build 4 new nuclear power plants.
>>>>> They still have to find locations for 3, what if next doors?? ??
>>>>
>>>>These are planned to be the --now old-fashioned-- Westinghouse
>>>>design? Big installations that need ten years to build?
>>>>
>>>>I wonder if it wouldn't be better to start an industry of
>>>>small modular reactors. Tens of megawatts rather than hundreds,
>>>>Something that could fit on a barge, or a train, transported
>>>>where it's needed, and up and running in months rather than
>>>>years.
>>>
>>>Yes, Russia has a ship with a nuclear power plant that powers some city somewhere,
>>>no risk of flooding then :-)
>>> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Russian_floating_nuclear_power_station 
>>>OTOH ever more power is needed, so a big nuclear power plant makes sense.
>>
>>Why not lots of smaller ones? They could be phased in incrementally,
>>quickly, where and when needed.
>>
>>The politics are good. Do you want electricity? Find us a few acres
>>for an SMR.
>
>The more the harder security is.
>Some idiots a few days ago did set fire to a HV mast in Germany to prevent Tesla from expanding there.
>It also cut power to some other large company and caused shortages.
> https://www.nytimes.com/2024/03/05/business/tesla-germany-factory-fire.html
> 
>It would be cool if they got small fusion reactors working.
>One for in each car?

So far, fusion doesn't look like it will work in anything smaller than
a star.

Cars work fine on gasoline, or almost even on batteries. It doesn't
make sense for a 100lb person to move 3 tons of steel with them to the
drugstore, but market forces will fix that.