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Path: ...!eternal-september.org!feeder2.eternal-september.org!news.eternal-september.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: JM <sunaecoNoChoppedPork@gmail.com> Newsgroups: sci.electronics.design Subject: Re: Final final 1kHz oscillator Date: Sun, 17 Nov 2024 02:01:25 +0000 Organization: A noiseless patient Spider Lines: 495 Message-ID: <n7iijjdeqecl0kmub0bq5in0dbm60m7qam@4ax.com> References: <vglt5t$30a3$1@nnrp.usenet.blueworldhosting.com> <t5fajjdteskfftvkf84iqsp2vc4b9ta5kj@4ax.com> <vh57l4$2knt$1@nnrp.usenet.blueworldhosting.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Injection-Date: Sun, 17 Nov 2024 03:01:50 +0100 (CET) Injection-Info: dont-email.me; posting-host="b9d54e26a9cde1c378b98c955a9813d2"; logging-data="339993"; mail-complaints-to="abuse@eternal-september.org"; posting-account="U2FsdGVkX1/W44y8NmxqA21F5hCWUczk" User-Agent: ForteAgent/8.00.32.1272 Cancel-Lock: sha1:SkIFXVSTLnVQwWSliar7r1mkJgU= Bytes: 18073 On Thu, 14 Nov 2024 11:14:28 -0500, "Edward Rawde" <invalid@invalid.invalid> wrote: >"JM" <sunaecoNoChoppedPork@gmail.com> wrote in message news:t5fajjdteskfftvkf84iqsp2vc4b9ta5kj@4ax.com... >> On Fri, 8 Nov 2024 15:43:41 -0500, "Edward Rawde" >> <invalid@invalid.invalid> wrote: >> >>>This is the simplest circuit I can come up with. >>>Harmonics are more than 80dB down in simulation. >>>FFT the last 30 seconds. >>>There is only one harmonic stopping me claiming 90dB but the exact FFT result can depend >>>on exactly how much output is selected for the FFT. You may see different results. >>> >>>If a prototype is ever built, attention to the type and quality of the capacitors used will be needed. >>>Electrolytics are not intended. Put C1 and C2 near U1 supply pins. >>>Also pay attention to the stability of +/- 6V. >>>It would be nice to have a single 12V rail version but so far I can't get it to work. >>> >>>R1 and R2 and probably R7 should be easily changeable. >>>R3 should be 220 ohm ten turn. R9 should be 1M ohm ten turn in series with 470k. >>> >>>I don't fully understand why the DC stabilization circuit through U2B achieves what it does >>>and this makes me concerned about whether a real circuit would have the same behaviour. >>>It was added when I noticed that the diodes D1 and D2 weren't contributing equally so I >>>decided to try to derive a DC correction signal. This was originally connected to the FET source >>>and then to R13. Since this is a DC correction signal I decided to try out the effect of >>>connecting it to U1 Vocm and was amazed that this works as well as it does. >>>If you disconnect R5, harmonics will not be more than 50dB down because D1 and D2 are no >>>longer providing stable and equal contributions to the level control feedback. >>> >>>If you need even better performance then the circuit referenced by Bill Sloman can be used. >>>https://www.google.com/search?q=AN132+purity >>>NSL-32SR3 is not expensive and simulation models exist but LT1468 is expensive. >>> >>>Other references >>> >>>https://www.google.com/search?&q=The+field+effect+transistor+as+a+voltage+controlled+resistor >>> >>>https://www.google.com/search?&q=sine+wave+oscillator&udm=2 >>> >>> >>>Version 4 >>>SHEET 1 2196 932 >>>WIRE -64 -672 -96 -672 >>>WIRE 48 -672 0 -672 >>>WIRE -96 -576 -96 -672 >>>WIRE -64 -576 -96 -576 >>>WIRE 48 -576 48 -672 >>>WIRE 48 -576 16 -576 >>>WIRE -32 -464 -32 -480 >>>WIRE 48 -448 48 -576 >>>WIRE 48 -448 0 -448 >>>WIRE -96 -432 -96 -576 >>>WIRE -64 -432 -96 -432 >>>WIRE 160 -416 0 -416 >>>WIRE 208 -416 160 -416 >>>WIRE 336 -416 288 -416 >>>WIRE 400 -416 336 -416 >>>WIRE 512 -416 400 -416 >>>WIRE 624 -416 512 -416 >>>WIRE -96 -384 -96 -432 >>>WIRE -32 -384 -32 -400 >>>WIRE 48 -368 48 -448 >>>WIRE 336 -368 336 -416 >>>WIRE 160 -352 160 -416 >>>WIRE 400 -352 400 -416 >>>WIRE 512 -288 512 -416 >>>WIRE 624 -288 624 -416 >>>WIRE -96 -272 -96 -304 >>>WIRE -96 -272 -192 -272 >>>WIRE -96 -240 -96 -272 >>>WIRE 48 -240 48 -288 >>>WIRE 160 -240 160 -288 >>>WIRE 336 -240 336 -288 >>>WIRE 400 -240 400 -288 >>>WIRE -192 -176 -192 -272 >>>WIRE -224 -128 -256 -128 >>>WIRE -96 -128 -96 -160 >>>WIRE -96 -128 -128 -128 >>>WIRE -80 -128 -96 -128 >>>WIRE 144 -128 -80 -128 >>>WIRE 288 -128 224 -128 >>>WIRE 352 -128 288 -128 >>>WIRE 512 -128 512 -224 >>>WIRE 512 -128 432 -128 >>>WIRE -256 -48 -256 -128 >>>WIRE -208 -48 -256 -48 >>>WIRE -80 -48 -80 -128 >>>WIRE -80 -48 -128 -48 >>>WIRE 288 -16 288 -128 >>>WIRE 288 -16 64 -16 >>>WIRE 352 -16 288 -16 >>>WIRE 512 -16 512 -128 >>>WIRE 512 -16 432 -16 >>>WIRE -256 0 -256 -48 >>>WIRE 144 48 144 32 >>>WIRE -240 96 -320 96 >>>WIRE -176 96 -240 96 >>>WIRE 64 96 64 -16 >>>WIRE 112 96 64 96 >>>WIRE 512 96 512 -16 >>>WIRE 512 96 272 96 >>>WIRE 16 128 -48 128 >>>WIRE 112 128 16 128 >>>WIRE -320 144 -320 96 >>>WIRE 624 144 624 -224 >>>WIRE 656 144 624 144 >>>WIRE 768 144 720 144 >>>WIRE 848 144 768 144 >>>WIRE -176 160 -176 96 >>>WIRE 16 160 16 128 >>>WIRE 112 160 64 160 >>>WIRE 624 160 624 144 >>>WIRE 624 160 272 160 >>>WIRE 144 224 144 208 >>>WIRE 848 240 848 144 >>>WIRE 16 256 16 224 >>>WIRE 64 272 64 160 >>>WIRE 160 272 64 272 >>>WIRE 288 272 160 272 >>>WIRE 400 272 352 272 >>>WIRE 512 272 512 96 >>>WIRE 512 272 480 272 >>>WIRE 64 288 64 272 >>>WIRE 160 288 160 272 >>>WIRE -320 320 -320 224 >>>WIRE -320 320 -400 320 >>>WIRE -400 336 -400 320 >>>WIRE -320 336 -320 320 >>>WIRE -176 336 -176 224 >>>WIRE -176 336 -320 336 >>>WIRE -48 336 -48 128 >>>WIRE 64 384 64 368 >>>WIRE 160 384 160 352 >>>WIRE 160 384 64 384 >>>WIRE -320 416 -320 336 >>>WIRE 64 416 64 384 >>>WIRE 848 416 848 320 >>>WIRE -176 432 -176 336 >>>WIRE 192 480 144 480 >>>WIRE 304 480 272 480 >>>WIRE 384 480 368 480 >>>WIRE 512 480 512 272 >>>WIRE 624 480 624 160 >>>WIRE 288 576 288 560 >>>WIRE -320 592 -320 496 >>>WIRE -240 592 -320 592 >>>WIRE -176 592 -176 496 >>>WIRE -176 592 -240 592 >>>WIRE 384 592 384 480 >>>WIRE 384 592 320 592 >>>WIRE 624 592 624 544 >>>WIRE 624 592 384 592 >>>WIRE -48 608 -48 416 >>>WIRE 0 608 -48 608 >>>WIRE 32 608 0 608 >>>WIRE 144 608 144 480 >>>WIRE 144 608 112 608 >>>WIRE 208 608 144 608 >>>WIRE 256 608 208 608 >>>WIRE 432 624 320 624 >>>WIRE 512 624 512 544 >>>WIRE 512 624 432 624 >>>WIRE 624 624 624 592 >>>WIRE 704 624 624 624 >>>WIRE -48 656 -48 608 >>>WIRE 0 656 0 608 >>>WIRE 288 656 288 640 >>>WIRE 512 656 512 624 >>>WIRE 704 656 704 624 >>>WIRE 432 672 432 624 >>>WIRE 624 672 624 624 >>>WIRE -48 768 -48 720 >>>WIRE 0 768 0 720 >>>WIRE 0 768 -48 768 >>>WIRE 432 768 432 736 >>>WIRE 512 768 512 736 >>>WIRE 512 768 432 768 >>>WIRE 624 768 624 736 >>>WIRE 624 768 512 768 >>>WIRE 704 768 704 736 ========== REMAINDER OF ARTICLE TRUNCATED ==========