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From: Xocyll <Xocyll@gmx.com>
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Subject: Re: Free Jaded game until 1/25/2025 on Steam!
Date: Thu, 16 Jan 2025 17:19:37 -0500
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Spalls Hurgenson <spallshurgenson@gmail.com> looked up from reading the
entrails of the porn spammer to utter  "The Augury is good, the signs
say:

>On Wed, 15 Jan 2025 08:42:05 -0500, Xocyll <Xocyll@gmx.com> wrote:
>
>>Justisaur <justisaur@gmail.com> looked up from reading the entrails of
>>the porn spammer to utter  "The Augury is good, the signs say:
>>
>>>On 1/13/2025 12:56 PM, Spalls Hurgenson wrote:
>>>> On Mon, 13 Jan 2025 09:54:16 +0000, ant@zimage.comANT (Ant) wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>> https://store.steampowered.com/app/1932570/Jaded/
>>>>>
>>>>> 01:47AM <Flexo> ::FreeGGdeals:: Snag Jaded for FREE on Steam before the price jumps to $9.99!
>>>>>           @ https://gg.deals/freebie/jaded-for-free-on-steam/ (by Natalia Koczorowska)
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> Huh. Another side-scrolling platformer with retro-graphics.
>>>> 
>>>> I dunno; I'm sort of burnt-out, or wearied, or generally sated by this
>>>> sort of game. Just kind of apathetic to that whole sort of experience
>>>> by having seen too much of games of that genre in the past. It's been
>>>> made dull to me, and perhaps I'm feeling just a bit cynical about the
>>>> whole thing.
>>>> 
>>>> It's hard for me to explain. I wish there was a single word that
>>>> expressed how I felt.
>>>> 
>>>> But I took the game, of course.
>>>> 
>>>
>>>Also early access.  I won't touch those.  It's bad enough having to wait 
>>>a year or two after release for a lot of games to get some of the worst 
>>>bugs worked out *cough* (Bethesda) *cough*.
>>
>>But at least Bethesda has been historically friendly to modding, and
>>that made up for a lot.
>>
>>With their new Microsoft overlords, I imagine that will change hard.
>>
>>Considering their changes to Windows, MS seems to be the opposite of
>>that attitude, YOU WILL DO IT OUR WAY, WE KNOW BETTER THAN YOU!!!!!!!!!!
>>
>>Cue Bethesda Funeral Music.
>
>I'm just trying to do the math of buggy Microsoft software + buggy
>Bethesda software. The results are scary ;-P
>
>But Bethesda hasn't _really_ been all that _supportive_ of modders for
>years, long before their acquisition by Microsoft. They haven't been
>actively hostile to them, but they've made a lot of moves that have
>been solely for Bethesda's benefit and to the detriment of mods (many
>of their updates seem to have little purpose other than to push their
>own "Creation club" even as it breaks existing mods. The recent "Next
>Gen" update to "Fallout 4", "Doom 3 BFG Edition" and "Skyrim Special
>Edition" all are examples of this_. 

They have really, or at least they have not gotten in the way of
modding.


>That so many mods exist for their products is more a result of
>Bethesda's refusal to update their creaky Gamebryo/Creation
>game-engine that has powered all their biggest games. Because of this,
>modders have great familiarity with the underlying systems, and so
>don't have to re-invest a lot of time and effort into learning new
>solutions. But from what I've read, this reluctance of Bethesda has
>more to do with not wanting to change their own internal game design
>workflow more than any real concern for what the modders want.
>
>[They haven't even really added any real mod-loading support into
>their games, requiring you to use third-party tools for that task]

But again, they have done ZERO to get in the way of modding like so many
other gaming companies.

>So I don't have any real faith in Bethesda being a great protector of
>modders. Microsoft is a bit more of an unknown. On the one hand, they
>do tend to be more protective of their IPs. On the other hand, they
>are also more business savvy, and probably recognize that modders
>bring a lot of value to them. So I'm not sure which way they'll swing.

MS has always been, you do it our way, we know better than you what you
need, when mostly they haven't a fucking clue.

Xocyll