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From: John B. <slocombjb@gmail.com>
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Subject: Re: Ove Interest?
Date: Tue, 18 Feb 2025 21:30:46 +0700
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On Tue, 18 Feb 2025 06:52:05 -0500, Catrike Ryder
<Soloman@old.bikers.org> wrote:

>On Mon, 17 Feb 2025 20:58:45 -0500, Frank Krygowski
><frkrygow@sbcglobal.net> wrote:
>
>>On 2/17/2025 3:40 PM, AMuzi wrote:
>>> On 2/17/2025 2:20 PM, Frank Krygowski wrote:
>>>> On 2/17/2025 11:43 AM, Roger Merriman wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Despite the paucity of guns intended for "protection," Canadians don't 
>>>> seem to suffer from hordes of bad guys beating down front doors of 
>>>> homes. And I've not read of Canadian bike path users suffering from 
>>>> vicious attacks - although I suppose anything is possible!
>>> 
>>> Right and as noted by Mr Tricycle (and others here over the years) 
>>> Canada enjoys much smaller rates of crime and especially violent crime 
>>> overall. Different culture, different population densities, etc.  Mexico 
>>> conversely has even more restrictive firearms regulation than Canada, 
>>> and those statutes are many times older, and yet violent crime and 
>>> especially homicide by firearm are radically higher in Mexico.  
>>> Different culture with many differences, not only regarding homicide.
>>
>>Mexico is famous for its relatively weak government, its drug cartels 
>>and their control over various levels of government, its massive illegal 
>>importation of American guns, its income inequality, its lack of legal 
>>income opportunities, etc. Yes, there are many factors, but prevalence 
>>of guns is absolutely a big contributor to their problems. (How much 
>>power would the cartels have without guns?)
>>
>>Of the factors I listed, note how many apply to young American guys 
>>living in inner city ghettos. The situation is much the same. And of 
>>course, in the U.S. efforts to (e.g.) reduce income inequality get 
>>blasted as "socialism," and efforts to restrict the flow of guns are 
>>blasted as "unconstitutional." But without the guns, the murder rate 
>>would have to be much lower. It's a fact that one gang can't quickly 
>>kill four of the opposing gang just by using clubs and knives. It's just 
>>not practical.
>>
>>Canadians can and do get the guns they need for legitimate uses. The 
>>restrictions are no great burden on them. And partly because their 
>>criminal types have much more trouble getting and keeping guns, ordinary 
>>citizens don't feel the need to nurture Quick Draw fantasies.
>
>Whan guns are outlawed, only outlaws have guns. That's a fact
>
>>"And of course, in the U.S. efforts to (e.g.) reduce income 
>>inequality get blasted as "socialism," 
>
>Actually, social welfare is one important element of socialism.
>
>>"and efforts to restrict the flow of guns are blasted as "unconstitutional." 
>
>That's because it is.


I like the " income inequality"

The first job I got after going to Indonesia was building oil drilling
locations in the Indonesian part of  New Guinea. I was told to meet a
bloke named Tom Sea at the airport and he'd get me to the job site.
And he did... two commercial flights, one chartered DC-3 and a
helicopter and I was at the base site - a 200 ft barge anchored at a
uninhabited island in the middle of a rather large bay.

Work was seven days a week and be at the Heli pad before dawn as the
helicopters could only fly in day light hours and coming back in the
evening was a matter of hoping that the they got to the work site in
time to get back to the camp before dark or everyone stayed at the
site during the hours of darkness.

The job paid about twice what a nice easy day job in Jakarta did but I
think it was deserved.
-- 
Cheers,

John B.