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From: Catrike Ryder <Soloman@old.bikers.org>
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Subject: Re: The Destruction of Farms by Encroaching Cities.
Date: Fri, 10 May 2024 16:32:36 -0400
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On Fri, 10 May 2024 19:30:28 GMT, Roger Merriman <roger@sarlet.com>
wrote:

>Frank Krygowski <frkrygow@sbcglobal.net> wrote:
>> On 5/10/2024 1:54 PM, AMuzi wrote:
>>> On 5/10/2024 12:26 PM, Tom Kunich wrote:
>>>> Since I've never been further east than San Antonio, Texas, I don't 
>>>> know how they combine living and farming in the eastern half of the US.
>>>> 
>>>> In California it is bandled attrociously with all of the land 
>>>> including farm land gobbled up by developers, and government zoning 
>>>> farms out of business. In Oregon and Washington the matter isn't yet 
>>>> serious because the populations aren't large enough. But Idsho and 
>>>> Montana are faced with the problem of cities beginning their 
>>>> inevitable growth and some way to limit city grown an lean more to the 
>>>> village model of Europe.
>>>> 
>>>> While California was still reasonably small riding from town to town 
>>>> was certainly better than being in traffic with nearly every ride. 
>>>> Niles used to be a village but now there is ONE field left between 
>>>> Oakland and Niles. It is small but the farmer still grows corn each 
>>>> year. Otherwise it is house to house except ehere industrial buildings 
>>>> are placed.
>>>> 
>>>> This destruction of the enviroinment by the Democrats shows that 
>>>> idiots have no foresight
>>> 
>>> In 1930 there were 986,771,016 farm acres total in USA, 51.8% of the 
>>> entire area.
>>> 
>>> https://www2.census.gov/library/publications/decennial/1930/agriculture-volume-2/03337983v2p1ch02.pdf
>>> 
>>> For 2023 it was merely 878,600,000 acres, something around 46.2% so 
>>> you're right about the trend (-5.5% over 90 years).
>>> 
>>> https://www.statista.com/statistics/196104/total-area-of-land-in-farms-in-the-us-since-2000/
>>> 
>>> That said, production per acre is exponentially higher (with less labor) 
>>> as noted here often, due to hybridization, better technical soil 
>>> analyses/rectification, better water management, mechanization rather 
>>> than draft animals and so on.  A crisis doesn't seem likely.
>>> 
>>> 'Destruction of environment' is a subjective area. I would ask 'sez 
>>> who?'. One man decries home building while another eschews solar farms 
>>> and yet another bemoans 'wildlife areas' with zero output/revenue per acre.
>> 
>> And I'm curious what Tom would propose as a solution to what he 
>> perceives as a problem. Perhaps more government regulations, to forbid 
>> selling acreage to developers? Really?
>> 
>Cities do seem to grow as populations grow, and in particular as suburbs
>grow ie lower density areas and so on.
>
>Roger Merriman


People have to have a place to live, and I can't blame them for not
wanting to live in apartments or tiny little houses within sight and
earshot of their neighbors.