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On Wed, 3 Apr 2024 22:45:09 -0000 (UTC), "Adam H. Kerman"
<ahk@chinet.com> wrote:

>BTR1701 <atropos@mac.com> wrote:
>>On Apr 3, 2024 at 8:36:11 AM PDT, moviePig <never@nothere.com> wrote:
>>>On 4/3/2024 5:50 AM, FPP wrote:
>>>>On 4/2/24 5:52 PM, moviePig wrote:
>>>>>On 4/2/2024 1:16 AM, Adam H. Kerman wrote:
>>>>>>BTR1701 <atropos@mac.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>Mar 27, 2024 at 3:58:45 PM PDT, moviePig <never@nothere.com>:
>>>>>>>>3/27/2024 6:57 PM, BTR1701 wrote:
>>>>>>>>>Adam H. Kerman <ahk@chinet.com>:
>>>>>>>>>>BTR1701 <atropos@mac.com> wrote:
>
>>>>>>>>>>>Why is it that burning the American flag is protected speech,
>>>>>>>>>>>but if you burn an Alphabet Mafia rainbow flag, you can get
>>>>>>>>>>>arrested for a hate crime?
>
>>>>>>>>>>You mean a flag that does not belong to you, not your own flag.
>
>>>>>>>>>No, I mean any rainbow flag. If you go buy one yourself, then
>>>>>>>>>take it to an anti-troon protest and burn it, it's a hate crime.
>
>>>>>>>>>But if you buy an American flag and take it to an Antifa riot
>>>>>>>>>and burn it, protected speech. . . . 
>
>>>>>>>>The former action is one of hate, the latter is one of protest.
>
>>>>>>>https://ibb.co/0FpvG4S
>
>>>>>>moviePig is unparseable here. Is he stating that protestors protest
>>>>>>against their friends and not their enemies? I'm so confused.
>
>>>>>I'm here to help.
>
>>>>>In general, people who burn an American flag do so in protest of their 
>>>>>own government's actions and policies, while those who burn a rainbow 
>>>>>flag do so to express their hate of queers.
>
>>>>If you own it, you can burn it.
>
>>>But not at a gay-pride march under laws against hate speech.
>
>>There are no laws against hate speech in the United States. If any
>>legislature should pass such a law, it would be unconstitutional.
>
>No. I'm sorry. You keep trying to fix moviePig but he's still broken.
>
>How does moviePig know what emotion the flag burner is expressing? The
>flag burning in question was by a veteran of the Afghanistan war
>protesting massive deaths of Palestinian civilians in Gaza by Israel's
>military counterstrikes.
>
>That isn't protesting an American government action and policy, is it,
>but what an ally is doing. So moviePig's statement is inapplicable to
>what I had raised.
>
>It's also not generally opposed to civilian deaths. Clearly the Israeli
>women at the kibbutz who were raped, tortured, kidnapped, and killed are
>civilians, but for some reason, they don't count. Nor do the other
>civilians were were kidnapped or killed by Hamas count.
>
>It's so strange.
>
>Also, these protestors have said nothing, absolutely nothing, with
>respect to Russia killing massive numbers of civilians in Ukraine
>because they target civilians in high-rise housing and infrastructure.
>Ukraine isn't comparable to Gaza. There are no military targets within
>civilian areas.
>
>It's so strange. They care about civilian deaths in one place but not
>all those other places.
>
>Therefore, based on moviePig logic, we conclude that this instance of
>protest is hate speech against Israelis or all Jews generally, in
>violation of the 14th and 1/2 amendment.
>
>Not being moviePig, I cannot attribute motive to burning a rainbow flag.
>For all we know, no one cares about the sexual proclivities of
>consenting adults in their own bedrooms but may indeed care very much
>about library programs promoting interactions with very young children.
>
>But yes, anything that's not an expression of sufficient love and
>acceptance of this kind of behavior in public toward your own children
>is unconstitutional speech under the 14th and 1/2 amendment.
>
>I don't understand how moviePig believes the 14 and 1/2 amendment
>doesn't apply in the first instance but does in the second.
>
>It's so very very strange.

He's a lib.  That explains everything.