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Path: ...!3.eu.feeder.erje.net!feeder.erje.net!proxad.net!feeder1-2.proxad.net!usenet-fr.net!pasdenom.info!from-devjntp Message-ID: <nhZZyv1rDmL90pLuaDma-8md3qw@jntp> JNTP-Route: news2.nemoweb.net JNTP-DataType: Article Subject: Re: Replacement of Cardinality References: <hsRF8g6ZiIZRPFaWbZaL2jR1IiU@jntp> <38ec6fd291b3b6d6f41db8be499a710a8abe39f9@i2pn2.org> <fE1naizk8McRI8kMur_IKqjaiuU@jntp> <e55475b3fede49578ff8924bb11ffae6bbd577f3@i2pn2.org> <Hvx9pkNBibwnsRP7U8XbISIAywo@jntp> <f532ab6ece8e11409c83d9033e1607b0bee97f28@i2pn2.org> <9xKV2FrNFAjW0MsxhKvnP9dPB4w@jntp> <cec0225a1e6ec21e1bca57b37fff99612e4505c4@i2pn2.org> <8G0IFYrPqHdBEH1pzbz9ifVRvd0@jntp> <11698e94cb8361b62f1686b64d6351a9720d4d3d@i2pn2.org> Newsgroups: sci.logic JNTP-HashClient: mLScufBtbkI1yLacf2plFEJVUTg JNTP-ThreadID: KFm3f7lT2HjaTSiMfnv5xqZoSBw JNTP-Uri: http://news2.nemoweb.net/?DataID=nhZZyv1rDmL90pLuaDma-8md3qw@jntp User-Agent: Nemo/0.999a JNTP-OriginServer: news2.nemoweb.net Date: Tue, 30 Jul 24 17:37:09 +0000 Organization: Nemoweb JNTP-Browser: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 10.0; Win64; x64) AppleWebKit/537.36 (KHTML, like Gecko) Chrome/127.0.0.0 Safari/537.36 Injection-Info: news2.nemoweb.net; posting-host="82b75c1d0a83e677ff646b52485f72f8b23749df"; logging-data="2024-07-30T17:37:09Z/8969604"; posting-account="217@news2.nemoweb.net"; mail-complaints-to="julien.arlandis@gmail.com" JNTP-ProtocolVersion: 0.21.1 JNTP-Server: PhpNemoServer/0.94.5 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-JNTP-JsonNewsGateway: 0.96 From: WM <wolfgang.mueckenheim@tha.de> Bytes: 2547 Lines: 36 Le 30/07/2024 à 03:18, Richard Damon a écrit : > On 7/29/24 9:11 AM, WM wrote: >>> But what number became ω when doubled? ω/2 > > No, that is w double, what number in the first set became w? > >>> >>> Every natural number when doubled is a Natural Number. >> >> No. > > Why not? WHich ones don't? ω/2 and larger. > >> >>> Note, ω-1 doesn't exist in the base transfinite numbers, just as -1 >>> doesn't exist in the Natural Numbers, you can't go below the first >>> element. >> >> If all natural numbers exist, then ω-1 exists. > > Why? Because otherwise there was a gap below ω. >> That is unavoidable. You believe in the magical appearance of infinitely >> many unit fractions. That breaks logic and mathematics. > > Nope, ∀n ∈ ℕ: 1/n - 1/(n+1) > 0. Note the u niversal quantifier. Regards, WM