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Path: ...!eternal-september.org!feeder3.eternal-september.org!news.eternal-september.org!eternal-september.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: Paul S Person <psperson@old.netcom.invalid> Newsgroups: rec.arts.sf.written Subject: Re: Pearls Before Swine: Uncle Is Not Good With Money Date: Wed, 15 Jan 2025 08:19:08 -0800 Organization: A noiseless patient Spider Lines: 48 Message-ID: <ninfoj10pnb1anerfj7kpkv8k53f1lvq7q@4ax.com> References: <vlpb2u$3h575$2@dont-email.me> <vls45e$84m0$2@dont-email.me> <vluomn$k9v$1@panix2.panix.com> <vm4084$21l8b$2@dont-email.me> <vm4hs2$4q7$1@panix2.panix.com> <vm4qmk$29grr$1@dont-email.me> <751a5770-77f9-681d-d457-97b419a586a7@example.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Injection-Date: Wed, 15 Jan 2025 17:19:13 +0100 (CET) Injection-Info: dont-email.me; posting-host="4dedca0121788d2126aef43257085057"; logging-data="3179088"; mail-complaints-to="abuse@eternal-september.org"; posting-account="U2FsdGVkX19FEWOB031UQLG616qt62W2wos4EoU6kbw=" User-Agent: ForteAgent/8.00.32.1272 Cancel-Lock: sha1:fxm7pNYHn0nz3AtdntX8OWP61CQ= Bytes: 2933 On Tue, 14 Jan 2025 19:13:11 +0100, D <nospam@example.net> wrote: > > >On Mon, 13 Jan 2025, Lynn McGuire wrote: > >> Go watch the new Napoleon movie. Towards the end of his career, = Napoleon=20 >> takes 650,000 French and German troops to Russia, intent on taking = Moscow.=20 >> When he gets to Moscow, no one is there and it is torched while they = are in=20 >> it. >> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/French_invasion_of_Russia >> >> Napoleon decides to walk home to France. Only 35,000 of his troops = make it=20 >> home with him. Horrible. Another 35,000 straggle in later. >> https://www.imdb.com/title/tt13287846/ >> >> My point is that the Russians have been willing to go to extreme = lengths to=20 >> fight off invaders. And at this point, they consider Ukraine to be a=20 >> extended part of Russia. > >Extreme lengths? Such as being lucky, setting houses on fire and running= away? >Sounds like bad strategy if you ask me. I should point out that this was covered by Bondarchuk in the fourth part of /War and Peace/.=20 Also, the Russian Strategy after Borodino was to withdraw and await developments. In the end, what "developed" is a French withdrawal in the middle of the Russian Winter. I'm not it is clear who started the fires. The "withdraw" part also worked in WW2, at least once Stalin dropped his "hold them at the border" nonsense. In WW2, of course, they did have to eventually stop the advance and push the Axis back. All the way to Berlin. Russia is a /big/ country. It takes a /lot/ of boots on the ground to take it and hold it. --=20 "Here lies the Tuscan poet Aretino, Who evil spoke of everyone but God, Giving as his excuse, 'I never knew him.'"