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Path: ...!eternal-september.org!feeder3.eternal-september.org!news.eternal-september.org!eternal-september.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: John B. <slocombjb@gmail.com> Newsgroups: rec.bicycles.tech Subject: Re: Helmet efficacy test Date: Thu, 27 Mar 2025 19:43:56 +0700 Organization: A noiseless patient Spider Lines: 60 Message-ID: <nkhaujtfo794kapsqqvlimvr9lmeb5au1p@4ax.com> References: <vrt0d6$24h8c$2@dont-email.me> <m4f68uFpiqsU1@mid.individual.net> <ogu4ujpkvk3ck8tojoh6fkq5tbmkmh1oor@4ax.com> <vru3fn$31kv7$1@dont-email.me> <4s45uj1f7a09kdh5cuau8e2k37snjcm2g5@4ax.com> <vrudkh$3fet8$3@dont-email.me> <vruj8u$3i4m6$3@dont-email.me> <vrvmhi$j8eo$3@dont-email.me> <vs0m66$1h7oe$2@dont-email.me> <vs18m6$21gj2$2@dont-email.me> <vs1kob$26rhh$2@dont-email.me> <vs2e67$35mlr$1@dont-email.me> <vs3c0r$44vf$1@dont-email.me> <m4ks9lFbfjcU1@mid.individual.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Injection-Date: Thu, 27 Mar 2025 13:43:59 +0100 (CET) Injection-Info: dont-email.me; posting-host="b1ddbcf35b23b3d3c7afeaced3996e21"; logging-data="302451"; mail-complaints-to="abuse@eternal-september.org"; posting-account="U2FsdGVkX18VvHhp/CR813EIUzN8MKJwx97bLBDS2Dw=" User-Agent: ForteAgent/7.10.32.1212 Cancel-Lock: sha1:QAXWqcBSZDYg57eBQj7Ejf7SLnQ= Bytes: 3618 On 27 Mar 2025 11:49:09 GMT, Roger Merriman <roger@sarlet.com> wrote: >Zen Cycle <funkmaster@hotmail.com> wrote: >> On 3/26/2025 10:46 PM, Frank Krygowski wrote: >>> On 3/26/2025 3:32 PM, Zen Cycle wrote: >>>> On 3/26/2025 12:06 PM, Frank Krygowski wrote: >>>>> >>>>> On average, bicycling is safer than walking by all those metrics. You >>>>> obviously don't believe that, >>>> >>>> I don't? My, how kunich-esque of you. >>> >>> Perhaps you should explicitly state your positions. As it is, you now >>> seem to be implying that you do think bicycling is safer than walking. >>> Yet you apparently think that bicyclists get great value from special >>> protective hats, but pedestrians don't need them. Those two points seem >>> inconsistent. >>> >>> So am I misinterpreting your views? What exactly are your views? >> >> My view is that helmets work. Wear them if you feel you need to extra >> protection. Don't wear them if you don't feel that need. >> >> >I find them useful off road as bush protection if like myself one rides the >path less traveled aka overgrown! So I can essentially use my the helmet to >push through said bushes! > >On road which for me largely is commuting, It provides eye protection with >the visor from rain/hail and so on. > >It’s also quite handy as sort of man bag to put one’s keys/gloves etc at >cafe stop/shopping etc. > >I have no expectations of protection from motor traffic nor does population >studies seem to suggest that, bike infrastructure seems to do that ie >Amsterdam and similar cyclists have much lower rates and so on. > >But UK isn’t likely to make this a legislation the hurdles to do so are >large, so I don’t feel forced or otherwise to use one, after all see plenty >of non helmeted cyclists about be they folks on hire bikes or some utility >cyclists. > >It’s such a non issue at least here. > >Roger Merriman > I think my reason for wearing a helmet was best :-) My wife mentioned one day, "I'd feel better if you wore a helmet", so I went right out and bought one. Which gave me a big edge in the next husband-wife argument.... "Well! When you wanted me to wear a helmet I did....." (:-]) -- Cheers, John B.