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Path: ...!news.nobody.at!2.eu.feeder.erje.net!feeder.erje.net!fu-berlin.de!uni-berlin.de!individual.net!not-for-mail From: Jeff Liebermann <jeffl@cruzio.com> Newsgroups: rec.bicycles.tech Subject: Re: Suspension losses Date: Sat, 04 Jan 2025 11:36:56 -0800 Lines: 33 Message-ID: <no2jnj5emkf6ri82qa9pvbtc9j0gms7i8n@4ax.com> References: <vl3spg$2s1te$1@dont-email.me> <ltncirFoe27U1@mid.individual.net> <vl64mj$3bq6b$2@dont-email.me> <vl6c56$3dbnt$1@dont-email.me> <vl6dhg$3d8lq$1@dont-email.me> <vl6hn5$3edb4$1@dont-email.me> <jaehnj5vhmdv672avehfcrfaurqm6rl80c@4ax.com> <vlbt3g$ic6h$2@dont-email.me> <vlbv17$itaf$1@dont-email.me> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Trace: individual.net eI7DiV0Idf4kgqYbQJnGDwEkaFaQm1NTchHdAAsPAxDW5z5Tok Cancel-Lock: sha1:2gqvSFPR8fMz0tsZrD8LZ0WhseI= sha256:vbT0YFKBjVp8V7CT0rA9ChKJXKSX2VYnPIBKhODfLFw= User-Agent: ForteAgent/8.00.32.1272 Bytes: 2612 On Sat, 4 Jan 2025 12:35:20 -0600, AMuzi <am@yellowjersey.org> wrote: >Analog computer? >Like the fluid logic plate in an automatic transmission? > >https://www.carid.com/acdelco/gm-original-equipment-automatic-transmission-valve-body.html-- Nope. The automobile automatic transmission is actually a digital fluidic switch. When all the inputs and outputs are either on, off, in, out, left, right, up down etc, it's digital. There are fluidic analog computers. The key difference is how numbers are stored. In a digital computer, numbers are stored as discrete numbers. In an analog computer, numbers are stored as a range of values that require interpolation to produce an output. When I asked Google the same question, I received a rather wide range of answers: <https://www.google.com/search?q=difference+between+analog+and+digital+computer> That was a common point of contention as computers were being developed (roughly 1960 thru 1990). I don't think anyone successfully produced an answer that covered all types of computing devices. Instead of an official answer, everyone just gave up by about 1990. User manual on an early analog computer including a few useful examples. Try to visualize what those problems might look like on a slide rule or today's personal computers: <https://www.analogmuseum.org/english/collection/eai/tr10/> <https://www.analogmuseum.org/library/eai_tr-10.pdf> -- Jeff Liebermann jeffl@cruzio.com PO Box 272 http://www.LearnByDestroying.com Ben Lomond CA 95005-0272 Skype: JeffLiebermann AE6KS 831-336-2558