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Path: ...!Xl.tags.giganews.com!local-4.nntp.ord.giganews.com!nntp.earthlink.com!news.earthlink.com.POSTED!not-for-mail NNTP-Posting-Date: Sat, 11 Jan 2025 14:00:28 +0000 Subject: Re: Diversity - good or bad ? Newsgroups: comp.os.linux.misc References: <c686fb74-4fac-0809-7005-417c76ee0e3b@example.net> <nbReP.633803$oR74.271654@fx16.iad> <2e17ec15-582f-5a71-84e5-d4d490274270@example.net> <vlj20k$25740$9@dont-email.me> <7454fa51-3534-2584-2197-90613efb2091@example.net> <XPSdnbpbLvJvxeL6nZ2dnZfqnPGdnZ2d@earthlink.com> <vloss6$3e1r9$5@dont-email.me> <vlp4pc$3fpg0$7@dont-email.me> <vlpc44$3h48e$4@dont-email.me> <vlqi4a$3sp5m$2@dont-email.me> <vlr2rm$3vgr7$7@dont-email.me> <slrnvo33ju.3npco.lars@cleo.beagle-ears.com> <9uo3ojpd83jm9ngmlhera3nvi00pl9ajeb@4ax.com> <oyWdnaZv_tC4mx_6nZ2dnZfqn_udnZ2d@earthlink.com> <luejbaFhoeeU1@mid.individual.net> From: "186282@ud0s4.net" <186283@ud0s4.net> Organization: wokiesux Date: Sat, 11 Jan 2025 09:00:04 -0500 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:78.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/78.13.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <luejbaFhoeeU1@mid.individual.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Language: en-US Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <nsacnSBef6vh5B_6nZ2dnZfqn_qdnZ2d@earthlink.com> Lines: 59 X-Usenet-Provider: http://www.giganews.com NNTP-Posting-Host: 99.101.150.97 X-Trace: sv3-olj6+2I5XZogYUj8M+/kxe4kWZzjlDzqBEwT9t7zebTB5VND9dO4tMJ9Y3Z7OcNaditoVNiypsyfErr!Hfz/x2bvrcRdFxLIvEz98adbxw7YuCo32J95PTx2+nrJ8VYooXL6BSgGoYen31iNzQ1C92mxwQxc!GUX1C7ziHucjkkIsaIi+ X-Abuse-and-DMCA-Info: Please be sure to forward a copy of ALL headers X-Abuse-and-DMCA-Info: Otherwise we will be unable to process your complaint properly X-Postfilter: 1.3.40 Bytes: 4308 On 1/11/25 2:02 AM, rbowman wrote: > On Sat, 11 Jan 2025 00:48:20 -0500, 186282@ud0s4.net wrote: > >> However there's still most of the olde-tyme core distros. >> The RHEL branch, Debian, Arch, Slack. Those seem to be holding up. >> FreeBSD and OpenBSD also and don't forget GenToo. > > And SUSE... I don't remember if any other distros did the same but I have > a box set which included the installation media and a set of printed > manuals. I can't remember if it was Best Buy. They were preceded by a > company that folded. Anyway you could buy the set like any other > software. > > It was the last gasp of the traditional software purchase with printed > documentation prior to 'download the iso, burn it to a DVD, and good > luck.' I bought original SUSE off the shelf also - green box. I'd messed around with RH and SlackWare before but they were really crude. SUSE was just NICE. There was also a low-cost version of Oracle that'd run with it on the same shelf. Alas original SUSE went all commercial - appears under different names too. OpenSUSE captured the goodness of the original very well. Used it for desktops, used it for servers. Of late it's kinda become messed up, they dropped a lot of older utilities - some of which I'd writ software around and/or parsed their output. That's when I got mad at 'em and went straight Deb. Then Deb got funky, WAY too much like Ubuntu. IMHO Ubuntu should have shifted more back towards Deb. So, for now, Manjaro and some Fedora. No one has yet made a clean Just Works port of Fedora for the Pi-5 alas ... something's WEIRD about that unit. They should drop it and make a "Pi4-Ultra" instead with a peppier version of that chip. Tried to make a VM of DragonFly the other day. Wouldn't boot properly, dunno why yet. The 'live' version would start OK in VBox and allegedly install, but you couldn't boot the resultant installation - it remained fixated on the live ISO being there. I've used it a little in the past and it ain't bad at all so I'll try again. My FreeBSD VM works Ok. Oh ... never found good advice on this ... is it possible to somehow clone a VBox installation and jam it in as a HDD install ? VMs are good for experimentation - but once you get the experiment RIGHT you don't wanna throw it away. Anyway, 'diversity' ... good to a POINT, so long as it doesn't overly-fracture developer teams.