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From: John B. <slocombjb@gmail.com>
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Subject: Re: bike path news
Date: Fri, 14 Mar 2025 06:40:46 +0700
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On Thu, 13 Mar 2025 11:26:15 -0400, Frank Krygowski
<frkrygow@sbcglobal.net> wrote:

>On 3/12/2025 11:02 PM, John B. wrote:
>> On Wed, 12 Mar 2025 14:25:04 -0400, Frank Krygowski
>> <frkrygow@sbcglobal.net> wrote:
>> 
>>> On 3/12/2025 2:21 PM, AMuzi wrote:
>>>> On 3/12/2025 12:32 PM, Frank Krygowski wrote:
>>>>> On 3/12/2025 8:46 AM, AMuzi wrote:
>>>>>> On 3/11/2025 9:15 PM, Frank Krygowski wrote:
>>>>>>> On 3/11/2025 9:08 AM, AMuzi wrote:
>>>>>>>> On 3/11/2025 5:23 AM, Roger Merriman wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Just because it can happen doesn’t mean it will happen, going out
>>>>>>>>> on limb
>>>>>>>>> but I suspect that CatTrike Ryder will be perfectly safe with or
>>>>>>>>> without
>>>>>>>>> carrying any guns on his rides.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Which is a personal risk assessment. His, not yours.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> And as I must frequently remind people, personal assessments can be
>>>>>>> flat out wrong. With phobias, they almost always are.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Consider the evidence on this one. It sounds like he's taken his gun
>>>>>>> on every bike ride for many years. That's probably hundreds of
>>>>>>> trips. Surely if he had actually had to brandish it, let alone shoot
>>>>>>> it, he'd have told us by now.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> So his hundreds personal risk assessments saying "I might need my
>>>>>>> gun for defense today" have all proven wrong. He's never once been
>>>>>>> right on this!
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> That's a uniformly crappy track record.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> We have a fire extinguisher in the shop truck and three of them in
>>>>>> the bike shop (with 53 years of annual inspection fees I might add).
>>>>>> I have never used one. Ever.
>>>>>
>>>>> Think benefits vs. detriments, please.
>>>>>
>>>>> Fire extinguishers are benign. We don't have tens of thousands of fire
>>>>> extinguisher deaths per year. One thug beat capitol police with a fire
>>>>> extinguisher on January 6, 2021, but that idiot was an extreme
>>>>> outlier, whom Trump tried to turn into a hero.
>>>>>
>>>>> (So much for complaints about criminals going free, eh?)
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Difficult mix of cases but they all did time, and hard time at that.
>>>
>>> As do many parolees. Still there are complaints from those who would
>>> have them rot in jail forever.
>> 
>> 
>> Weren't you the guy that was quoting percentages just a bit ago?
>> 
>> "About 69% of parolees in a 1978 study were rearrested for a serious
>> crime within six years of their release. Recidivism rates vary
>> depending on the type of crime, demographics, and length of time since
>> release.
>> 
>> Recidivism rates by crime type
>>      Property crimes: Have the highest recidivism rates, with estimates
>> of 78.3% of people convicted of property crimes being rearrested over
>> five years
>>      Drug offenses: Over 80% of convicted drug offenders are arrested
>> again within nine years
>> 
>> Recidivism rates by demographics
>>      First arrested before age 18: Have the highest recidivism rates
>>      First arrested at age 40 or older: Have the lowest recidivism
>> rates, below 30%
>> 
>> Recidivism rates by time since release
>>      Recidivism rates are highest in the first two years after release
>>      In a 2021 study, 66% of people released from prison in 24
>> different states in 2008 were re-arrested within three years
>> 
>> Other parole and probation statistics
>>      45% of state prison admissions are the result of violations of
>> probation or parole
>>      The severity of the original conviction offense is not the only
>> factor that predicts recidivism risk
>> 
>>      How common is it for released prisoners to re-offend?
>>      May 14, 2566 BE
>>      USAFacts
>>      Recidivism of Young Parolees - Bureau of Justice Statistics
>>      Approximately 69% of a group of young parolees were rearrested for
>> a serious crime within 6 years of their release from prison, 53...
>>      Bureau of Justice Statistics
>>      New National Recidivism Report - Council on Criminal Justice"
>
>You seem to be saying criminals should remain in prison, because those 
>released will likely re-offend.
>
>So will you complain about Trump releasing those who were convicted of 
>attacking police officers at the capitol, after being caught doing so on 
>video?

No comments -  I don't live there and thus know little about what goes
on there... just as you and Florida.

 
-- 
Cheers,

John B.