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Path: ...!eternal-september.org!feeder2.eternal-september.org!news.eternal-september.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: shawn <nanoflower@notforg.m.a.i.l.com> Newsgroups: rec.arts.tv Subject: Re: The Old vs The New Date: Thu, 14 Nov 2024 08:54:36 -0500 Organization: A noiseless patient Spider Lines: 55 Message-ID: <nsvbjj1edp49vtrogd0ksvorejcaaa18el@4ax.com> References: <vh3t6h$2l36t$1@dont-email.me> <vh493a$2mv52$2@dont-email.me> <vh4nje$2pjhb$1@dont-email.me> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Injection-Date: Thu, 14 Nov 2024 14:54:40 +0100 (CET) Injection-Info: dont-email.me; posting-host="88b6f77201a215615463925ab8eadc1a"; logging-data="2991713"; mail-complaints-to="abuse@eternal-september.org"; posting-account="U2FsdGVkX19poD3cU9SXllgnV+LWmFEYWdcSCni1VrY=" User-Agent: ForteAgent/8.00.32.1272 Cancel-Lock: sha1:Wca5qEA1CY7VjdB5prr2BqSpNTo= Bytes: 3562 On Thu, 14 Nov 2024 06:40:29 -0500, Rhino <no_offline_contact@example.com> wrote: >On 2024-11-14 2:32 AM, Adam H. Kerman wrote: >> BTR1701 <atropos@mac.com> wrote: >> >>> 'Bout damn time. >> >>> https://video.twimg.com/ext_tw_video/1856344458259734528/pu/vid/avc1/1280x720/64Ai02EiWiLnc_TM.mp4?tag=12 >> >> "Families can be deported together." >> >> Uh >> >> That would include citizens and permanent residents. They aren't subject >> to deportation. Other people claim that's actually wht he means. > >I cannot IMAGINE the courts upholding a decision to deport actual >citizens of the United States, even with a majority of conservative >judges and the Republicans in control of the House, Senate and the >Executive Branch unless perhaps an amendment had changed the >Constitution to allow deportation of citizens. > >Surely the new "border czar" will, at most, put people who are citizens >in the difficult position of having their families split or leaving >VOLUNTARILY to keep the family together. > >Has anyone heard if people that will be deported under this >administration will be allowed to apply to enter the country legally >after they've returned to their home countries (or perhaps a third >country) or will these deportees be forbidden to even apply for normal >immigration ever again? (I'm assuming they can't be banned from applying >for refugee status.) LOL. Given that no one knows just what the new administration will do with regards to deportation asking if people will be able to reapply to enter the country legally seems a bit much. No one knows what the new administration will do including the people in the new administration. I think under current rules if someone is here illegally and is deported that they can't reapply for to enter the country legally, but what does that mean for someone that is here legally under current rules but is deported under the new administration's rules? >Am I correct in thinking that American popular sentiment still supports >LEGAL immigration, even under the current circumstances, it just wants >to stop border-jumpers from sneaking in? If so, then I would hope that >the deportations to come won't preclude those people applying to come >legally. Popular sentiment is what you state. That said who knows what the new administration will do as at times I've heard Trump and his people suggest the Haitians who are here legally under asylum rules should be sent back to Haiti. Whether they will actually attempt such a thing remains to be seen.