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Path: ...!news.misty.com!2.eu.feeder.erje.net!feeder.erje.net!fu-berlin.de!uni-berlin.de!individual.net!not-for-mail From: Jeff Liebermann <jeffl@cruzio.com> Newsgroups: rec.bicycles.tech Subject: Re: cyclists attack auto driver Date: Tue, 20 Aug 2024 09:59:08 -0700 Lines: 65 Message-ID: <nth9cjtkmu6fel54vai2bap0qc3qfmdat3@4ax.com> References: <cp16cjheocvhmb4fo8t2rq4hsrf3hmgjqg@4ax.com> <v9vnba$2tip9$1@dont-email.me> <vso6cj9qss2q36a48lnnd9t64ve6kjmeoi@4ax.com> <v9vpof$2tip9$7@dont-email.me> <kqq6cj50f2oikqds9sls0f4mkauvn01jda@4ax.com> <va0qjd$333np$3@dont-email.me> <jak8cjhtigf2grhab4mdi5jj1cn6sgl62p@4ax.com> <va23d4$3chus$2@dont-email.me> <va2chv$3e7nj$1@dont-email.me> <s0e9cjpqqvc5b4csm7ba6juopur68ufu80@4ax.com> <va2e79$3e2nb$1@dont-email.me> <a0h9cjd3keumjl5ido7au5q8a0418b9d4f@4ax.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Trace: individual.net idxoOmxaa2EgbXHZ/9yTggaqkhydZHWh688NMt7On+lVS7ZJ3R Cancel-Lock: sha1:F1pYyZyuAxHilFm7sCdbnWz0lko= sha256:jyNLZtG79h8fQjhBwbLAe//dDL/0bLYkJgE6Q7WH7eM= User-Agent: ForteAgent/8.00.32.1272 Bytes: 3891 On Tue, 20 Aug 2024 12:33:06 -0400, Catrike Ryder <Soloman@old.bikers.org> wrote: >On Tue, 20 Aug 2024 10:54:16 -0500, AMuzi <am@yellowjersey.org> wrote: > >>On 8/20/2024 10:38 AM, Catrike Ryder wrote: >>> On Tue, 20 Aug 2024 11:25:49 -0400, Frank Krygowski >>> <frkrygow@sbcglobal.net> wrote: >>> >>>> On 8/20/2024 8:49 AM, AMuzi wrote: >>>>> >>>>> The formal education racket is not for everyone, but education is nearly >>>>> free, requiring only time, diligence and access to a few used book stores. >>>> >>>> Sorry, Andrew, that's true only for the lowest definition of "education." >>>> >>>> In one of the first engineering classes I took, the teacher said >>>> something like "Look at the guys standing to your left and right. They >>>> are probably not going to make it through this curriculum. Only about >>>> ten percent of the men who start this program manage to complete it." >>>> >>>> And he was right. It's very foolish to believe that everyone is equally >>>> intelligent, and that everyone can succeed if they just try really hard. >>>> >>>> I certainly recall students who were diligent, studied hard, got special >>>> help, spent tons of time on their work and still failed. I felt sorry >>>> for them, but if they were not up to standards, they did not pass. >>> >>> Education is a tool. It's what one does with the education that >>> counts, not the piece of fancy paper they hang on the wall and brag >>> about. >> >>While it's true that autodidacts often suffer gaps of >>education, it's also true that graduates include those who >>tested well with little post college retention and also >>those of extremely narrow education. >> >>Neither is a perfect solution for everyone. >...and many with a near, or even a totallly worthless degree. >https://www.universities.com/resources/most-useless-degrees Such lists are useful for avoiding professions that don't pay well. However, they are often interpreted as suggesting one should not take any classes in the various listed "useless degree" fields. While I majored in Electrical and Electronic Engineering, the next most USEFUL classes I took were (in order starting with most useful): - Economics - Psychology - Tractor driving and mechanics - Computer programming - Philosophy None of these classes would have been useful had I not concentrated on my chosen profession. For example, I know engineers who dabble in philosophy, but no psychologists or economists who know anything about engineering. -- Jeff Liebermann jeffl@cruzio.com PO Box 272 http://www.LearnByDestroying.com Ben Lomond CA 95005-0272 Skype: JeffLiebermann AE6KS 831-336-2558