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From: Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com>
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-hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> wrote:
>On 9/25/24 1:27 AM, DFS wrote:
>> On 9/24/2024 7:52 PM, Joel wrote:
>> 
>>> Apple is just a laughable resource,
>>> overpriced, overrated, literally a cult of right-brained people.  As
>>> bloated as M$ Winblows is, at least it's not just some funky crapware
>>> like macOS (save for the kernel and Darwin).
>> 
>> For the speed and functionality and software and resale value, I don't 
>> think the base Macs and iMacs and Mac Minis are overpriced.  But they 
>> kill you on the upgrades.  And some (most?) of their hardware isn't even 
>> user-upgradeable, so you DO have to pay out the ass upfront to get 
>> decent  memory and storage.
>> 
>> It's not for the broke, drunk, drugged-up Linux dregs like yourself and 
>> D'Oliveiro and Feeb.
>
>Probably need to also include chrisv here too, since he predictably 
>protests at length whenever I comment about Linux advocates complaining 
>about costs (especially of Apple).


Why shouldn't Apple overcharge, they have to support this market, M$
specializes in making things easy, so that the learning curve can hang
with the market for software for it.  But to think of using a Mac
without heavily accessing Darwin, and probably VMing Windows 11 for
ARM, is amusing.


>> And at least 2 former cola Linux advocates - Tattoo Vampire and 
>> SMelzzzzz - have abandoned Linux and embraced Apple.  That tells you a 
>> lot about how good Apple stuff is.
>> 
>> I'm not averse to a mini system, but I prefer a med-big tower case I can 
>> swap parts in and out of, and the amt of great software available for 
>> Windows dwarfs that available for Mac and Linux.
>
>Small form factor has been Apple's design direction now for over a 
>decade.  Mobile makes sense, particularly since laptops have become good 
>enough to replace a generic office productivity application desktop.


The mini is a fine thing to buy, IMO, if you want this crapware from
Apple.  But they've developed ARM, were the leader in it.  Dell offers
it too so Apple is back to being highly obscure, but I am,
philosophically, enthusiastic about ARM.

-- 
Joel W. Crump

Amendment XIV
Section 1.

[...] No state shall make or enforce any law which shall
abridge the privileges or immunities of citizens of the
United States; nor shall any state deprive any person of
life, liberty, or property, without due process of law;
nor deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal
protection of the laws.

Dobbs rewrites this, it is invalid precedent.  States are
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