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Path: news.eternal-september.org!eternal-september.org!feeder3.eternal-september.org!fu-berlin.de!uni-berlin.de!individual.net!not-for-mail From: Jeff Liebermann <jeffl@cruzio.com> Newsgroups: rec.bicycles.tech Subject: Re: Lost your home? Car? Everything? Thank a bicyclist and the California road diet. Date: Fri, 17 Jan 2025 07:33:46 -0800 Lines: 63 Message-ID: <nvskojd43orr7on9d3auul6srspjdtg97b@4ax.com> References: <vltcm8$mbe$1@toxic.dizum.net> <vlua5b$n5cv$2@dont-email.me> <lufqr0Fo2k6U2@mid.individual.net> <87msftw8h4.fsf@mothra.hsd1.ma.comcast.net> <bo3hoj5b5oltiihj4nro227ejjjkn25lfe@4ax.com> <87ldvatwa8.fsf@mothra.hsd1.ma.comcast.net> <glrioj959qpc743mslfa2psvsvs7o6ffar@4ax.com> <v9sioj1jgb68ffa8kaeh8t3fnvnkpc9ohn@4ax.com> <350jojlspes3kj7c4kb9qqjq34phbl1ve9@4ax.com> <hp5joj9vj8rnltpm9vprskmuhliqf4q5r7@4ax.com> <806kojd9839nt2jc2khj5cq8ufc8h0p64f@4ax.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Trace: individual.net iJmkqOYHXVKlR3Z1YXs2yAf9utucyY7gM4mGjjno8zou4zdLBH Cancel-Lock: sha1:LmRX0kpYrbQNEPl74LjnS+hj11c= sha256:mvdF+6KmubOxaTXIZheAWqVrRsC+QV7ZLbzI7HcN0Fo= User-Agent: ForteAgent/8.00.32.1272 On Fri, 17 Jan 2025 03:43:12 -0500, Catrike Ryder <Soloman@old.bikers.org> wrote: >On Thu, 16 Jan 2025 15:54:40 -0800, Jeff Liebermann <jeffl@cruzio.com> >wrote: >>>>"The number of bicycle repairers in California correlates with..." >>>><https://tylervigen.com/spurious/variable?id=5582> >>>>Scroll down the list for various correlations. >Huh? Where do I find those future bicycle repair statistics? Follow the link I provided. If anything, there's too much information and detail. In this case, there's nothing involving FUTURE bicycle repair statistics. There's only present and past statistics. See: <https://tylervigen.com/spurious/correlation/7307_the-number-of-bicycle-repairers-in-california_correlates-with_the-average-number-of-likes-on-mark-rober-youtube-videos> The number of bicycle repairers in California Detailed data title: BLS estimate of bicycle repairers in California Source: Bureau of Larbor Statistics Which points to: "Occupational Employment and Wage Statistics" <https://www.bls.gov/oes/tables.htm> Which points to the California statistics at: <https://www.bls.gov/oes/current/oes_ca.htm> Which shows the California "bicycle repairers" on line 49-3091 at: <https://www.bls.gov/oes/current/oes493091.htm> as 2,800 as of May 2023 from the US map. To obtain the other years employment, follow the links for those years and build a table. >You almost had me there. I think you didn't say what you meant to say, >but if I understand what you meant to say, I agree, I think... No sympathy. If I can navigate my way through the Burro of Laborious Statistics, you can also do the same. I assure you that statistical research is surviveable. >The first requirement is to establish that the two events are related >in any way. Nope. The LAST requirement is to determine if the numbers line up to produce some form of correlation, which they do. Then, you figure out how well they correlate (r=0.964). However, even if they correlate perfectly, you cannot claim causality. >>Mark Rober's videos on building squirrel proof bird feeders, exploding >>glitter bombs to discourage porch pirates, and various over-engineered >>gadgets are intended for kids, but are equally interesting to adults: >><https://www.youtube.com/@MarkRober/playlists> >><https://www.youtube.com/@MarkRober/videos> >>He's one of the few adults that have the "knack" for getting kids >>interested in engineering. >><https://www.crunchlabs.com> > >Cool dude. Good stuff. No, really good stuff. I'm going to watch some >more. Enjoy. -- Jeff Liebermann jeffl@cruzio.com PO Box 272 http://www.LearnByDestroying.com Ben Lomond CA 95005-0272 Skype: JeffLiebermann AE6KS 831-336-2558