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Path: ...!Xl.tags.giganews.com!local-4.nntp.ord.giganews.com!nntp.supernews.com!news.supernews.com.POSTED!not-for-mail NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 04 Jun 2025 01:03:52 +0000 From: Tyrone <none@none.none> Newsgroups: comp.os.linux.advocacy Subject: Re: Where Are The Computer Companies? X-No-Archive: Yes References: <pan$29b7b$b7a507ca$65fa7e80$6d363bdf@gnu.rocks> <4xudnYJGWODS66H1nZ2dnZfqn_WdnZ2d@supernews.com> <101lg9s$3j9qp$10@dont-email.me> <WKKcnZq31fJNHKL1nZ2dnZfqn_WdnZ2d@supernews.com> <101o2pt$br8d$1@dont-email.me> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=fixed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit User-Agent: Usenapp for MacOS X-Usenapp: v1.27.4/l - Full License Message-ID: <nxWdndBfr87lBqL1nZ2dnZfqnPqdnZ2d@supernews.com> Date: Wed, 04 Jun 2025 01:03:52 +0000 Lines: 25 X-Trace: sv3-nahWBwVPpcP5lLcoJaPRQ9adI9QySZUoNM4QJvQQELdP1Ss2wOWeP0hM+CKfxIUx22ll3tiMRUggrUO!ADICcsCExCjfHFDAkPU6gYKj2OLSio8PwhxQzr3ONXWjrxxoaHaZ4ri3xL89cj/UTvj0PYYutyVP!2azkI6MWTUY= X-Complaints-To: www.supernews.com/docs/abuse.html X-DMCA-Complaints-To: www.supernews.com/docs/dmca.html X-Abuse-and-DMCA-Info: Please be sure to forward a copy of ALL headers X-Abuse-and-DMCA-Info: Otherwise we will be unable to process your complaint properly X-Postfilter: 1.3.40 Bytes: 2290 On Jun 3, 2025 at 8:08:29 PM EDT, "Lawrence D'Oliveiro" <ldo@nz.invalid> wrote: > On Tue, 03 Jun 2025 23:14:24 +0000, Tyrone wrote: > >> Fun fact: Macs/iPhones/iPads make up the largest installed base of Unix >> computers by a single company in the world. > > What is “Unix”? It’s just a trademark. The original meaning of a > particular way for a computer system (OS and userland) to operate has > gone, and Apple played an instrumental part in killing it. You repeating this does not make it true. >> Unix does not look dead to me. > > When people think “Unix” nowadays, they really mean a Linux or BSD system. > That’s what works they way they expect a “Unix” system to work. Not Apple. Only because everyone expects a "Unix" system to be ugly and obtuse. It sounds like you are confusing the GUI with the underlying OS. Underneath it is a descendent of BSD, with a userland mainly from FreeBSD. MacOS/iOS/iPadOS are, in fact, Unix. Whether you like it or not.