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From: Jeff Liebermann <jeffl@cruzio.com>
Newsgroups: rec.bicycles.tech
Subject: Re: Colnago C60
Date: Thu, 09 Jan 2025 19:17:23 -0800
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On Thu, 9 Jan 2025 16:17:04 -0500, Zen Cycle <funkmaster@hotmail.com>
wrote:

>On 1/9/2025 2:16 PM, Jeff Liebermann wrote:
>> On Thu, 9 Jan 2025 06:42:48 -0500, zen cycle
>> <funkmasterxx@hotmail.com> wrote:
>> 
>>> I think the issue wasn't a bad/misprogrammed SIM, it was basic network
>>> compatibility. An old analog CDMA phone wasn't going to work on a
>>> European GSM network regardless of the ability of anyone who may have
>>> replaced the SIM card (which wasn't done).
>> 
>> Ummm... analog 1G phones didn't have SIM cards.  CDMA was spread
>> spectrum digital.
>
>Yes, I conflated AMPS with CDMA. My bad.

I'm not doing much better.  I forgot that 1G used AMPS.  Rather than
looking it up, I substituted analog.

I used to give talks to the local clubs on cellular.  That was in the
days when most people knew very little about cellular.  I would do a
show and tell with a large box full of various generations of cell
phones.  When the demand for such talks decreased, I reduced my
collection to only a few interesting phones.  I found these on top of
a pile of boxes that I don't want to excavate:
<https://photos.app.goo.gl/J5fMMcwhJufYcsLy5>
All the phones are on 800MHz.  The big box is a 3(?) watt AMPS
luggable phone that weighs 8.8lbs (4kg).  I had a smaller "handheld"
phone that looked and weighed the same as a brick.  Just try to look
cool carrying that monster.  The big box worked well until the lead
acid battery leaked and destroyed everything inside.  I tried
searching for data sheets and failed.  My guess(tm) is they're both
2G.  Anyway, I couldn't find a SIM card inside any of these phones.

>>> I'm willing to bet the phone
>>> didn't have the hardware to support GSM even if they gave him a new SIM.
>> 
>> That's another reason I wanted to know the maker and model number of
>> the flip phone.
>> 
>> I'll get back to this later.

Maybe I won't get back to this.  I'm going to be busy for a few days.
 
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