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Path: news.eternal-september.org!eternal-september.org!feeder3.eternal-september.org!fu-berlin.de!uni-berlin.de!individual.net!not-for-mail From: "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> Newsgroups: sci.electronics.design Subject: Re: Grand Apagon - Electricity (not) in Spain Date: Sat, 3 May 2025 14:37:12 +0200 Lines: 39 Message-ID: <o8fhelxmth.ln2@Telcontar.valinor> References: <vuqgef$1of93$1@dont-email.me> <vuqogf$1vlqj$1@dont-email.me> <vuqsdb$2497h$1@dont-email.me> <vusgmj$3lvur$2@dont-email.me> <1rbln2a.1frrgzg19gl8fgN%liz@poppyrecords.invalid.invalid> <vuvter$2p1lu$1@dont-email.me> <5tvcelxu6g.ln2@Telcontar.valinor> <vv2641$r3ti$2@dont-email.me> <aqpfelxr9m.ln2@Telcontar.valinor> <vv3jdv$23k6v$2@dont-email.me> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Trace: individual.net TAzlKoGTWOQyxS4oK8Hfpgx9F58NfPRNTdN/h6Cr0NkkBLk5hI X-Orig-Path: Telcontar.valinor!not-for-mail Cancel-Lock: sha1:Q1QxvBAT/DNb09BC1wyhcm8qD4U= sha256:NAHBrxzjGV4/Jy23gVmQD+cxc/Sq7CIJ3ACbx6i2ut8= User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird Content-Language: es-ES, en-CA In-Reply-To: <vv3jdv$23k6v$2@dont-email.me> On 2025-05-03 01:10, Don Y wrote: > On 5/2/2025 2:24 PM, Carlos E.R. wrote: >> I learned today that we can not isolate islands inside the country, >> because there are regions with a lot of demand and little generation, >> and other regions with a lot of generation and little demand. To do >> that would require separate transport. > > Is there are practical reason why there is not enough (none?) > generation in those areas? Or, have they just not made the > investment? Things happen. > > I.e., is there anything preventing them from FIXING this imbalance? Dunno. I'll try to expand some information, for you and Martin. In Andalucia and Extremadura (south and west of Spain) there are lots of rural areas that can accommodate huge solar plants, so lot of generation. On the other hand they don't have much of industry (not traditionally developed areas), so not much of demand (relatively). On the other hand, Madrid (centre of Spain) and Cataluña (north-east) have a lot of industries and less solar/wind generation. Nuclear generators are also mostly in the periphery, near the sea or big rivers. Not in the very densely populated Madrid (map here: <https://www.miteco.gob.es/es/energia/nuclear/centrales/espana.html>). Gas or oil generators? Also they don't abound in Madrid, the fuel has to be transported there. -- Cheers, Carlos.