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From: Catrike Ryder <Soloman@old.bikers.org>
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Subject: Re: New York's Crackdown on Ebikes
Date: Fri, 30 May 2025 15:11:52 -0400
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On Fri, 30 May 2025 14:43:55 -0400, Zen Cycle <funkmaster@hotmail.com>
wrote:

>On 5/30/2025 12:28 PM, AMuzi wrote:
>> On 5/30/2025 11:07 AM, Catrike Ryder wrote:
>>> On Fri, 30 May 2025 10:41:51 -0400, Zen Cycle <funkmaster@hotmail.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> On 5/30/2025 9:16 AM, Rolf Mantel wrote:
>>>>> Am 30.05.2025 um 14:36 schrieb Catrike Ryder:
>>>>>> On Fri, 30 May 2025 08:25:26 -0400, Zen Cycle <funkmaster@hotmail.com>
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On 5/26/2025 10:59 AM, Frank Krygowski wrote:
>>>>>>>> On 5/26/2025 8:38 AM, AMuzi wrote:
>>>>>>>>> On 5/26/2025 4:16 AM, Catrike Ryder wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> On Sun, 25 May 2025 21:36:00 -0400, Frank Krygowski
>>>>>>>>>> <frkrygow@sbcglobal.net> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> New York Times article on police cracking down on ebike traffic
>>>>>>>>>>> violations. Let's see if this will get people past the paywall:
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> https://www.nytimes.com/2025/05/24/nyregion/ebikes-scooters-
>>>>>>>>>>> cyclists- nyc.html?
>>>>>>>>>>> unlocked_article_code=1.KE8.voH2.AOcHv0jrnp79&smid=url-share
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> “This is a direct attack on immigrant workers,” Ms. Guallpa said.
>>>>>>>>>> “The
>>>>>>>>>> intent is to criminalize workers and to create a situation 
>>>>>>>>>> where our
>>>>>>>>>> communities could be targets for deportation.”
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Typical NYT woke nonsense...
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> -- 
>>>>>>>>>> C'est bon
>>>>>>>>>> Soloman
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> +1 with the typical misdirection and conflation.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Legal Resident Aliens (taxpaying, working people who cannot 
>>>>>>>>> vote) are
>>>>>>>>> ignored, along with US citizens. Criminal illegal aliens who, by
>>>>>>>>> Statute, cannot work and who are subject to summary deportation 
>>>>>>>>> by the
>>>>>>>>> same Statutes, are where her sympathies lie.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Damn. The right wing of this newsgroup is always on hair trigger!
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> The article contains over 2000 words. Of those, only about three
>>>>>>>> paragraphs mention immigrant delivery workers. The rest deals 
>>>>>>>> with the
>>>>>>>> disparity between ebike and car enforcement policies, noting that 
>>>>>>>> cars
>>>>>>>> kill far, far more pedestrians. It doesn't even mention that NYC
>>>>>>>> life is
>>>>>>>> totally dominated by the negative effects of car traffic. Yet people
>>>>>>>> are
>>>>>>>> enraged about the comparatively minuscule effects of ebikes, and 
>>>>>>>> ebike
>>>>>>>> riders are in some ways being treated more harshly than car drivers.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Look, I think ebike riders should ride legally. I think U.S. 
>>>>>>>> ebikes are
>>>>>>>> too fast, and/or should be legally treated more like motorcycles -
>>>>>>>> meaning integrated into traffic and kept off bike paths.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> But you guys ignore all that, blinded by the brief mention of
>>>>>>>> immigrants. You never fail to respond to right wing dog whistles, 
>>>>>>>> even
>>>>>>>> if  you have to blow the whistle yourself.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Braindead magatards like the floriduh dumbass will consistently 
>>>>>>> look for
>>>>>>> a political scapegoat for any issue they have based their ignorant
>>>>>>> opinions on, as is shown by his parroting of magatard groupthink
>>>>>>> nonsense.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Andrew isn't as bad as most but even he more recently is allowing
>>>>>>> himself to get sucked into the magatard groupthink propaganda - 
>>>>>>> there is
>>>>>>> no evidence in that article to support "Criminal illegal 
>>>>>>> aliens....are
>>>>>>> where her sympathies lie."
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Since deportation only applies to people in the USA illegally, her
>>>>>> statement absolutely indicates her sympathies are with the illegals.
>>>>>
>>>>> Deportation applies to people "presumed illegal" by the administration,
>>>>> not only to people legally determined illegal.
>>>>> Sadly the current admisitration has declared people illegal and
>>>>> attempted to deport without due process.
>>>>
>>>> +1, There have already been several well documented detentions and
>>>> attempted deportations of _legal_ immigrants.
>>>>
>>>
>>> Mistakes were made. All were quickly corrected.
>>>
>>> -- 
>>> C'est bon
>>> Soloman
>> 
>> Compare with some 20 million errors in the other direction in the past 
>> four years.
>> 
>
>Oh, great, now you're on board with 'The Great Replacement' theory.
>
>Interesting that an admitted atheist would be supportive of blatantly 
>white christian nationalist fascism. Gee Andrew, who's going to be there 
>when they come for you?

I think Mr Muzi said he was agnostic. I am also an agnostic and I know
that's different from being an atheist.

As for "blatantly white christian nationalist fascism," that just a
leftist talking point that has no relationship with reality. The
problem is that some people believe whatever their masters tell them
to believe.

--
C'est bon
Soloman