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Path: news.eternal-september.org!eternal-september.org!feeder3.eternal-september.org!nntp-feed.chiark.greenend.org.uk!ewrotcd!news.eyrie.org!beagle.ediacara.org!.POSTED.beagle.ediacara.org!not-for-mail From: jillery <69jpil69@gmail.com> Newsgroups: talk.origins Subject: Re: Last universal but not universal common ancestor of life Date: Sat, 14 Jun 2025 05:43:01 -0400 Organization: What are you looking for? Lines: 54 Sender: to%beagle.ediacara.org Approved: moderator@beagle.ediacara.org Message-ID: <ongq4kdl3e66o85l48tl5qbbclv8d0pd7p@4ax.com> References: <101vouv$2gshg$1@dont-email.me> <jaad4kpjme02q5mtpphupdm5j04vu0jmrs@4ax.com> <1027c8e$n2ml$2@dont-email.me> <ftji4klam1abjamk6m92krgqjt932e3vnf@4ax.com> <102dl7v$2g145$2@dont-email.me> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Injection-Info: beagle.ediacara.org; posting-host="beagle.ediacara.org:3.132.105.89"; logging-data="84497"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@beagle.ediacara.org" User-Agent: ForteAgent/8.00.32.1272 To: talk-origins@moderators.isc.org Cancel-Lock: sha1:ZaO0jrqg/NNHFNgEz8i5jtGkKgI= Return-Path: <news@eternal-september.org> X-Original-To: talk-origins@ediacara.org Delivered-To: talk-origins@ediacara.org id 55AC722978C; Sat, 14 Jun 2025 05:43:12 -0400 (EDT) by beagle.ediacara.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id E513A229783 for <talk-origins@ediacara.org>; Sat, 14 Jun 2025 05:43:09 -0400 (EDT) by pi-dach.dorfdsl.de (8.18.1/8.18.1/Debian-6~bpo12+1) with ESMTPS id 55E9h6mI475374 (version=TLSv1.3 cipher=TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 bits=256 verify=NOT) for <talk-origins@moderators.isc.org>; Sat, 14 Jun 2025 11:43:07 +0200 (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits) key-exchange X25519 server-signature ECDSA (P-256)) (No client certificate requested) by smtp.eternal-september.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 5E70F60A11 for <talk-origins@moderators.isc.org>; Sat, 14 Jun 2025 09:43:05 +0000 (UTC) Authentication-Results: name/5E70F60A11; dmarc=fail (p=none dis=none) header.from=gmail.com id 20AE0DC01CA; Sat, 14 Jun 2025 11:43:05 +0200 (CEST) X-Injection-Date: Sat, 14 Jun 2025 11:43:04 +0200 (CEST) X-Auth-Sender: U2FsdGVkX19sdx44vKtIC/GscYeu5iRgF3wSuVIl0k0= DKIM_ADSP_CUSTOM_MED,FORGED_GMAIL_RCVD,HEADER_FROM_DIFFERENT_DOMAINS, NML_ADSP_CUSTOM_MED,RCVD_IN_DNSWL_BLOCKED, RCVD_IN_VALIDITY_CERTIFIED_BLOCKED,RCVD_IN_VALIDITY_RPBL_BLOCKED, RCVD_IN_ZEN_BLOCKED_OPENDNS,SPF_HELO_NONE,SPF_PASS,USER_IN_WELCOMELIST, USER_IN_WHITELIST autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.6 smtp.eternal-september.org On Thu, 12 Jun 2025 00:31:59 -0400, JTEM <jtem01@gmail.com> wrote: >On 6/11/25 5:43 AM, jillery wrote: > >> I suppose it's easier to willfully=20 > >You just used "willful" in your last post. Which means someone >read his Word of the Day calendar! > >Why are you even arguing? > >"No! Words aren't supposed to communicate and, anyway, science >isn't supposed to be more exact than two nimords at the car wash!" > >Try this: "Yeah, know what? You're right again!" > >> misunderstand the meaning of words > >So I'm "Misunderstanding" the meaning of the word "Universal" >as "Universal." > >Let's quote the story: > >To apply this theory to the rest of the universe, we don=E2=80=99t have = to go=20 >far, either. =E2=80=9C[A]biotic synthesis of aromatic amino acids might = be=20 >possible in the water=E2=80=93rock interface of Enceladus=E2=80=99s = subsurface ocean,=E2=80=9D=20 >the scientists explain. That=E2=80=99s only as far as Saturn. Maybe a = Solar=20 >System block party is closer than we think. > >Gee, no confusion between "Universal" in reference to the earth alone >and "Universal" used to reference THE UNIVERSE in the same piece... You made an illogical leap from abiotic amino acid synthesis to LUCA. But that's what you do. >You're so freaking thirsty for a "Win" that you constantly >argue idiocy! And the truly pathetic part? There isn't even >anything to win! > >You made yourself look like a shithead for nothing. > >Science uses a lot of stupid language and this is an example. Yeah, I get that a lot from willfully stupid trolls. --=20 To know less than we don't know is the nature of most knowledge