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From: jillery <69jpil69@gmail.com>
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Subject: Re: Last universal but not universal common ancestor of life
Date: Sat, 14 Jun 2025 05:43:01 -0400
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On Thu, 12 Jun 2025 00:31:59 -0400, JTEM <jtem01@gmail.com> wrote:

>On 6/11/25 5:43 AM, jillery wrote:
>
>> I suppose it's easier to willfully=20
>
>You just used "willful" in your last post. Which means someone
>read his Word of the Day calendar!
>
>Why are you even arguing?
>
>"No!  Words aren't supposed to communicate and, anyway, science
>isn't supposed to be more exact than two nimords at the car wash!"
>
>Try this:  "Yeah, know what?  You're right again!"
>
>> misunderstand the meaning of words
>
>So I'm "Misunderstanding" the meaning of the word "Universal"
>as "Universal."
>
>Let's quote the story:
>
>To apply this theory to the rest of the universe, we don=E2=80=99t have =
to go=20
>far, either. =E2=80=9C[A]biotic synthesis of aromatic amino acids might =
be=20
>possible in the water=E2=80=93rock interface of Enceladus=E2=80=99s =
subsurface ocean,=E2=80=9D=20
>the scientists explain. That=E2=80=99s only as far as Saturn. Maybe a =
Solar=20
>System block party is closer than we think.
>
>Gee, no confusion between "Universal" in reference to the earth alone
>and "Universal" used to reference THE UNIVERSE in the same piece...


You made an illogical leap from abiotic amino acid synthesis to LUCA.
But that's what you do.


>You're so freaking thirsty for a "Win" that you constantly
>argue idiocy! And the truly pathetic part?  There isn't even
>anything to win!
>
>You made yourself look like a shithead for nothing.
>
>Science uses a lot of stupid language and this is an example.


Yeah, I get that a lot from willfully stupid trolls.

--=20
To know less than we don't know is the nature of most knowledge