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From: "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid>
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Subject: Re: Datasheet-flation?
Date: Mon, 2 Dec 2024 14:19:52 +0100
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On 2024-12-01 19:15, Cursitor Doom wrote:
> On Fri, 29 Nov 2024 23:35:11 +0100, Carlos E.R. wrote:
> 
>> On 2024-11-29 18:32, Jeroen Belleman wrote:
>>> On 11/29/24 15:33, Carlos E.R. wrote:
>>>> On 2024-11-29 15:22, Liz Tuddenham wrote:
>>>>> Jasen Betts <usenet@revmaps.no-ip.org> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> On 2024-11-24, Liz Tuddenham <liz@poppyrecords.invalid.invalid>
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>> Cursitor Doom <cd999666@notformail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> [...]
>>>>>>>> the English and American "billion" was harmonised many years ago
>>>>>>>> at one thousand million so there's no confusion.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Can you give a reference for that?  I haven't found one.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> https://researchbriefings.files.parliament.uk/documents/SN04440/
>>>>>> SN04440.pdf
>>>>>
>>>>> Thank you, that clarifies the situation.  The English Billion still
>>>>> exists but in 1957 British Ministers were told to use the American
>>>>> meaning as it was considered "International" by the then Prime
>>>>> Minister.
>>>>>
>>>>> Obviously it cannot be completely international if there are still
>>>>> countries using it to mean Bi-million nowadays.
>>>>
>>>> And languages. Spanish, in Spain at least, a billion is a million
>>>> million. So one has to be careful when translating.
>>>>
>>>>
>>> All this abundantly demonstrates that we're better off using the metric
>>> prefixes instead. It'll be next to impossible to make politicians and
>>> finance accept that though...
>>
>> Right!
>>
>> Or notations like 5*10^9  or 5E9 (calculators did this. Do they still
>> do? 5E9 is very simple)
> 
> When you deal with RF it's essential to have a scientific calculator that
> can handle exponents like that. I continue to be amazed at the computing
> power they're capable of for next to no money. In real terms they're a
> fraction of the price they were when they first became available. The
> first ever scientific calculator I ever had was an HP one. A friend had
> the Sinclair one. Another had a Bowmar (they went bust around 1975 IIRC).
> They were a quantum leap over what we used beforehand.

I hated HP calculators with their reverse polish notation. I bought TI 
instead, or Casio later.

-- 
Cheers, Carlos.