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From: Spalls Hurgenson <spallshurgenson@gmail.com>
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Subject: Re: Civ VII: OMG they're selling horse armor
Date: Mon, 10 Feb 2025 10:03:43 -0500
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On Sun, 09 Feb 2025 14:09:25 -0600, Zaghadka <zaghadka@hotmail.com>
wrote:

>On Sun, 09 Feb 2025 11:58:13 -0500, in comp.sys.ibm.pc.games.action,
>Spalls Hurgenson wrote: 

>>On Fri, 07 Feb 2025 10:38:36 -0600, Zaghadka <zaghadka@hotmail.com>
>>wrote:
>
>>>>4 profile customizations
>>>>1 alternate scout skin



>>But we get MTX and cosmetics with this release, so that'll make it
>>okay. ;-)

>Exactomundo. I don't know. It sounds like the playbook they're running
>from is "How to kill a franchise." I think they've reached the "wring
>blood from a stone by burning up the brand reputation phase."

Oh, we're getting VR too!* 

Because THAT'S what the fans really wanted in a Civilization game.
Sure, VR is on a downswing, and its best gaming uses are for
first-person immersion rather than strategy, but why not? That's not
out of touch at all. Perhaps the next patch will add NFTs?

Meanwhile, the publisher is dismissing all the bad reviews as just
"legacy players" bitching about changes and how they'll all love it
eventually. God forbid you actually listen to all the comments and
give them what they actually want, expected and paid for?

>But playing Civ (or any 4x) on a console system? It just feels... dirty.

I marginally disagree. I played only one Civ game on console:
Civilization Revolutions. It was actually pretty good. Sure, it was
simplified, and using a gamepad was a trial, but that's a fault of the
hardware. The game itself was a remarkably decent translation of what
Civilization is to hardware that isn't well suited to its mechanics.
I'd much rather "Civilization: Revolutions" than no "Civilization" at
all.

But that's because the core game was entertaining. Make a good game
and it'll likely be fun regardless of the platform. "Civilization VII"
doesn't seem to have that benefit; from what I hear, it's conceptually
interesting but implementationally flawed. 

Of course, all this is based on hearsay. I haven't played the game
yet. But I'm in far less of a rush to do so than I was even a week
ago. Eventually I'll get it, I suppose. But it's not going to be a
day-one purchase, or even a "as soon as it drops in price" a bit. More
likely I'll grab it when it shows up as a humbleChoice inclusion.








* announcement here
 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lavuwKvZki8