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Path: ...!weretis.net!feeder8.news.weretis.net!eternal-september.org!feeder3.eternal-september.org!news.eternal-september.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: Paul S Person <psperson@old.netcom.invalid> Newsgroups: rec.arts.sf.written,rec.arts.comics.strips Subject: Re: xkcd: CrowdStrike Date: Thu, 25 Jul 2024 09:13:50 -0700 Organization: A noiseless patient Spider Lines: 55 Message-ID: <ort4ajp89mpnvumfe1era7f998ef8ph0hc@4ax.com> References: <v7mhb5$qi0k$2@dont-email.me> <pan$efaa$e4f1e82d$63a65db8$edda2d85@cpacker.org> <q8mv9jpn95tb1urggdutodhiktta669ogv@4ax.com> <v7s265$ipa$1@panix2.panix.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Injection-Date: Thu, 25 Jul 2024 18:13:53 +0200 (CEST) Injection-Info: dont-email.me; posting-host="315516a51986512d40c42756f673f8df"; logging-data="2487495"; mail-complaints-to="abuse@eternal-september.org"; posting-account="U2FsdGVkX1/mHig7Tzts4CsZbT2RYPvToXYbbaYOs+4=" User-Agent: ForteAgent/8.00.32.1272 Cancel-Lock: sha1:EjGi0cNEvh+o4ELn27PgMzT++Kg= Bytes: 3519 On 24 Jul 2024 23:19:33 -0000, kludge@panix.com (Scott Dorsey) wrote: >Paul S Person <psperson@old.netcom.invalid> wrote: >> >>I saw an article where Microsoft was blaming the EU for forcing them >>to allow 3rd-party access to the Kernal, which they claim is what >>enabled the update to do bad things. If that is true, they may have a >>point. > >There is always third-party access to the kernel. In the Windows NT = days >before Microsoft had figured out 1960s-style memory protection, any = program >in user space could make changes to the kernel. And sometimes they=20 >accidentally did. If you say so. Microsoft says otherwise. Then again, it occurred to me a decade or two ago that Windows is simply to big to actually test for regressions in any meaningful sense -- hence the lack of quality control leading to occasional bad "updates". And a bit later that the chances of anyone at Microsoft actually knowing how Windows works was essentially 0. So I'm not going to say "and they should know" because there is a good chance that they have no idea at all and this assertion is pure marketing. >What the EU forced Microsoft to do was to DOCUMENT the kernel so that=20 >people could more reliably get third-party access. How odd. I seem to remember them being required to allow third-party programs to be loaded and selected over Microsoft programs. Leading to such interesting experiences as buying a new computer, remove the payment-required security package, and then simply rebooting to activate Microsoft's own.=20 Sounds like rather more than just "documenting the kernel". But it would explain the dearth of "Undocumented Windows" books covering the more recent versions. I gave up on paid 3rd-party virus scanners when I happened on one that only hooked into the Windows security network (was recognized by it) every other year (version). They also played fast-and-loose with their invoices, including extra charges without bothering to inform you until they were paid. My deduction was that they had two different teams producing versions on two-year schedules and one team hooked theirs into Windows security and the other did not. This also explained the UI whiplash suffered when "updating". --=20 "Here lies the Tuscan poet Aretino, Who evil spoke of everyone but God, Giving as his excuse, 'I never knew him.'"