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Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> wrote:

> BlueMail

_BlueMail as startup program on Windows desktop_

Before I try it on my Android phone, I wanted to test it on my Windows
desktop PC where it is a UWP (Universal Windows Platform App), not a
Win32 program (https://apps.microsoft.com/detail/9pmhzvm588p4).  I've
used other e-mail UWP apps on Windows, but found they had no startup
option; i.e., have it load on Windows startup, and after login into a
Windows account.  For example, eM Client's UWP app (not their Win32
program) won't load on startup.  I had to remember to load it.  I did
figure out a way to use its AppID in a command line to add to the
Startup folder, but that was a pain and undocumented versus the app's
own config settings having an auto-startup option.  

For BlueMail's desktop app, I found:

https://bluemail.me/help/disable-autostart/
**On Desktop:** Go to Settings | Global Settings | Advanced Features |
Launch app on system startup

I can't find that BlueMail for Android runs a service or as a sticky app
that has it load when I start my Android phone.

While I typically leave my phone powered up 24x7 (and often on the
charger), the phone has occasionally powered off, because the battery
got too low, or I needed to restart the phone to diagnose an issue.
When Android boots, is BlueMail going to load automatically?


_BlueMail using EWS to access *free* MS account_

Microsoft yanked EWS (Exchange Web Services) access to free MS accounts
(Hotmail, Outlook.com, Live.com).  They required an MS 365 subscription
to get Exchange access (and you used an Exchange-capable client), or you
had to use an MS client (Outlook on desktop or Android) to get EWS
access to a free MS account.  eM Client used to have EWS support for MS
accounts, but got nailed when Microsoft yanked away EWS from free MS
accounts, so they had to change to IMAP for e-mail, and ActiveSync for
calendar and contacts.  

While BlueMail says they support Exchange/EWS, do they still work with
free MS accounts?  MS clients still work with EWS on free MS accounts,
so somehow their server knows you are using an MS client to gain EWS
access.  I doubt the MS server will see BlueMail as an MS client.

Microsoft announced they will discontinue EWS altogether sometime late
2025, so clients using that access protocol will fail, or must be
switched to using IMAP.  They really want the money for an MS 365
subscription.


_BlueMail using Google Mail API_

For Gmail accounts, and when using Gmail clients, they use Google's Mail
API (Google's answer to Microsoft's Exchange).  Claiming support of
Gmail doesn't say if BlueMail is using the Mail API, or just plain old
POP or IMAP that any other e-mail client can use.

"It supports all major email protocols, including IMAP, SMTP, Exchange
ActiveSync, EWS, and POP3" really does not say it support Google's Mail
API (which requires a Google Project whose default quota is okay for
personal use, but not for a client left running all day long issuing
thousands of request commands by thousands of users, and upping the
project's API quota costs money -- except, of course, to Google for its
mail apps).

IMAP PUSH is nice for quicker retrieval of new e-mails, but their Mail
API is faster, and works on e-mail, calendar, and contacts instead of a
frankenjob of IMAP, iCal, and iCard.