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From: Wolfgang Strobl <news51@mystrobl.de>
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Subject: Re: Let's hide the bicyclists behind parked cars. What could go wrong?
Date: Fri, 10 Jan 2025 14:32:55 +0100
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Am Thu, 9 Jan 2025 18:05:50 -0500 schrieb Frank Krygowski
<frkrygow@sbcglobal.net>:

>But of course there are people like Mike Francisco, quoted in the video 
>and article, for whom "Any bike facility is a good bike facility."

This happens anywhere. Some months ago, a female cyclists was killed in
Berling/Germany by the driver of a concrete mixer

"The cyclist who was run over by a concrete mixer in Berlin-Mitte eleven
days ago is dead."

Translated from
<https://www.tagesspiegel.de/berlin/26-jahrige-wurde-von-betonmischer-uberrollt-radfahrerin-stirbt-nach-unfall-in-berlin-mitte-im-krankenhaus-12097475.html>

"According to the police report, the woman was traveling north on
Karl-Liebknecht-Straße and wanted to cross Mollstraße straight ahead
when the truck hit her while turning right."

"At the scene of the accident, the cycle lane does not run along the
edge of the carriageway, but between the car lanes, i.e. on the
left-hand side of the right-turn lane and next to the straight-ahead
lane. This type of marking is designed precisely to prevent serious
accidents involving right-turning drivers."

This is, of course, the well known strawman argument, comparing two
"bike facilities" based on segregation, instead of contrasting both to
no segregation, which would have allowed the cyclist to position herself
on the shared lane - taking the straight ahead lane in this case, that
is. 


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