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From: "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid>
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Subject: Re: Clear the cache of an android Cellphone (Moto G Pure)
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On 2024-03-18 20:31, VanguardLH wrote:
> "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> wrote:
> 
>> [ES Explorer] was a very good tool before they did that. I still have
>> it installed in some old phone or tablet. I don't understand why they
>> did not revert what they did bad to continue business.
> 
> I had it for a short time.  I dropped it when I found they were spying
> (collecting logistics on usage) and the click-through fraud.  They did
> the same with their other products.  Someone there got greedy, and
> thought they wouldn't get caught.  Guess they didn't want to go through
> the entire submission process along with proving they were good after
> being bad to get their stuff back in the Play Store.

It is the destruction of a company, unless they came back under another 
name. But I do not remember offhand a tool set that is as popular as ES 
was back in the day.

> 
> Some app authors of adware don't even provide a paid version to get rid
> of the ads.  Sales of the payware version might be dismal compared to
> generating click-through revenue.  ES Explorer apparently decided to
> covertly generate click-through revenue.  Did they have a payware
> version?

I don't remember.

> 
>> Actually, recent Android versions do an automatic cleanup of apps that
>> have not been used for a number of months.
> 
> The cleanup is disruptive.

Yes, it is.

>  It removes permissions under the guise of
> increasing security.  I don't often use my chainsaw, but I still need it
> years later when another tree falls, or I have to trim a tree.  I don't
> want some security-waving asshole removing some part that I have to
> figure out what it was to reenable my chainsaw.  When permissions are
> removed, yeah, you get a short blurb on what permissions were removed,
> but later when you want to use the app you can only hope the app prompt
> you to reinstate the correct permissions that Android (actually Google
> Play) removed.

Each time I see that popup, I review the apps it says, and verify that 
the switch to disable the cleanup is done. Initially the list is long, 
then the list starts with one or two apps that I have to toggle the 
switch, and then the rest are ok, disabled. I can ignore the rest of the 
list.


> 
>> I have to go round ALL apps to disable this feature.
> 
> They don't let you configure the Play Store app to stop this rude
> behavior.

No, they don't.

>  Yep, you have to go into the settings of Play Store to drill
> through every app listed as having permissions removed to reinstate
> those permissions - but WHICH permissions?  Will the app regain its
> needed permissions that it go upon install if you just load the app?

Yes, the app will complain when you try to use it. And possibly some 
config or status will also be lost because the cache was deleted.

-- 
Cheers, Carlos.