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On 08/11/2024 01:19 PM, gharnagel wrote:
> On Sun, 11 Aug 2024 18:07:25 +0000, Maciej Wozniak wrote:
>>
>> W dniu 11.08.2024 o 19:49, gharnagel pisze:
>> >
>> > On Sun, 11 Aug 2024 15:25:05 +0000, Maciej Wozniak wrote:
>> > >
>> > > Exactly, trash. Those alleged clocks having readings
>> > > as your idiot guru porophecied - exist only in
>> > > sick delusions of yours and your fellow idiots.
>> >
>> > Clocks are human inventions, so smart humans will set
>> > them to agree with natural phenomena.
>>
>> Sorry, trash, they won't.
>
> Denigration and prevarication aren't valid arguments.
>
>> Anyone can check GPS - oppositely, they will set them
>> to ignore natutral phenomena.
>
> Wozniak asserts that "t' = t" in the GPS system, but he
> never defines his terms.  Sometimes he demands he be
> told what the clocks in orbit are reading, but he doesn't
> specify the point where they should be read.  Since the
> system sets the same time over the whole earth, it's
> obviously not ignoring "natutral phenomena."
>
>> > Those that set them to agree with their fantasies
>> > will be disappointed.
>
>> Fortunetely for your bunch of idiots  you're
>> not THAT stupid. You only insist they should
>> be set to agree with your fantasies, but you're
>> setting them ordinary way so they indicate
>> t'=t, like always, and those alleged clocks
>> "agreeing with natural phenomena" and
>> "confirming" your idiocies - exist only in
>> your sick delusions.
>
> Sorry to say, but Wozniak appears to be the one with
> "sick delusions" since motional and gravitational
> time dilation are confirmed phenomena which would
> be apparent (in fact, was observed in the first
> satellite launched) if not engineered to make the
> orbital clocks agree with ground clocks -- only as
> observed by the ground clocks.  So Wozniak deceives
> when he claims "anyone can check the GPS" and that
> they're set the "ordinary way so they t' = t."
>
> How does he know they're set "the ordinary way"?
> He doesn't, of course.  All the engineers who
> designed the system have testified this is not so,
> but Wozniak, who doesn't know how the system works,
> vacuously asserts otherwise.  Case closed.


Well if you suss out that the equivalence principle,
that gravity is the same as acceleration, is a
terrestrial thing, and show that Hafaele-Keating flew
a particular path, and make for the rubidium laser
and the Pound-Rebka a bit of momentum, as it were,
then with that the Lense-Thirring and frame-dragging
is a thing, that GPS satellites as much advise their
differences as confirm them, lunar-laser ranging or
for Shapiro in the photon sector, then what you get
to is a real space-contraction that varies pretty
much according to the linear and the rotational,
with the linear carring space-frames in space contraction
and the rotational freely rotating in space-contraction,
and where for example the Aspect-type experiments are
a thing or Bell's, while even Michelson-Morley can be
considered with regards to where it's null, about the
particulars of the configuration of these experiments
in largely their terrestrial frame, there's that the
space-contraction and a fall-gravity fit most of the
same data of the critical experiments, while also
not being wrong about the Parameterized Post-Newtonian
Ephemeris, where lives Earth and its surrounds in their
orbits, terrestrial.

This isn't so different, yet, with a fuller dialectical
account of a deconstructive account and real continuum mechanics,
makes a better theory that isn't just broken by all the
missing impetus of supposed luminous matter and energy
in the entire cosmological survey, as that's thoroughly broken,
according to conscientious science.

Allais effect, ....