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Path: ...!news.nobody.at!weretis.net!feeder8.news.weretis.net!pasdenom.info!from-devjntp Message-ID: <pOA4hn5grEIEAiRkeD6GsTxHCfw@jntp> JNTP-Route: news2.nemoweb.net JNTP-DataType: Article Subject: Re: Replacement of Cardinality References: <hsRF8g6ZiIZRPFaWbZaL2jR1IiU@jntp> <0076fd253da6a575ae3618828c642ce7ad91ca3d@i2pn2.org> Newsgroups: sci.logic JNTP-HashClient: DIE71I1sAgmeWTDmoVGix_qeLpM JNTP-ThreadID: KFm3f7lT2HjaTSiMfnv5xqZoSBw JNTP-Uri: http://news2.nemoweb.net/?DataID=pOA4hn5grEIEAiRkeD6GsTxHCfw@jntp User-Agent: Nemo/0.999a JNTP-OriginServer: news2.nemoweb.net Date: Sat, 27 Jul 24 11:09:40 +0000 Organization: Nemoweb JNTP-Browser: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 10.0; Win64; x64) AppleWebKit/537.36 (KHTML, like Gecko) Chrome/126.0.0.0 Safari/537.36 Injection-Info: news2.nemoweb.net; posting-host="82b75c1d0a83e677ff646b52485f72f8b23749df"; logging-data="2024-07-27T11:09:40Z/8965715"; posting-account="217@news2.nemoweb.net"; mail-complaints-to="julien.arlandis@gmail.com" JNTP-ProtocolVersion: 0.21.1 JNTP-Server: PhpNemoServer/0.94.5 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-JNTP-JsonNewsGateway: 0.96 From: WM <wolfgang.mueckenheim@tha.de> Bytes: 3057 Lines: 40 Le 26/07/2024 à 23:57, joes a écrit : > Am Fri, 26 Jul 2024 16:31:19 +0000 schrieb WM: >> It is strange that blatantly false results as the equinumerosity of >> prime numbers and algebraic numbers could capture mathematics and stay >> there for over a century. But by what meaningful mathematics can we >> replace Cantor's wrong bijection rules? > Juste because it doesn't match your intuition doesn't mean it's not > useful. Cantor has been disproved in different ways. See for instance https://www.academia.edu/91188101/Proof_of_the_existence_of_dark_numbers_bilingual_version_ > >> Not all infinite sets can be compared by size, but we can establish some >> useful rules > that you would like instead. There are more natural numbers than prime numbers. That is fact. >> _The rule of subset_ proves that every proper subset has less elements >> than its superset. So there are more natural numbers than prime numbers, >> |ℕ| > |P|, and more complex numbers than real numbers. Even finitely >> many exceptions from the subset-relation are admitted for infinite >> subsets. Therefore there are more odd numbers than prime numbers. > What exceptions do you mean? The exception prime number 2 is not an odd number. > This immediately creates as many sizes as there are naturals, one for > each of your endsegments. >> _The rule of symmetry_ yields precisely the same number of reals in >> every interval (n, n+1] and with at most a small error same number of >> odd numbers and of even numbers in every finite interval and in the >> whole real line. > How small an error? Only 1 or 2 depending on the chosen interval. In the interval (0, 3] there are two odd natnumbers but only one even natnumber. Regards, WM