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Path: ...!weretis.net!feeder8.news.weretis.net!pasdenom.info!from-devjntp Message-ID: <pV0qtTN3r2yVQMsv7JmcdoOdDzE@jntp> JNTP-Route: news2.nemoweb.net JNTP-DataType: Article Subject: Re: Langevin's paradox again References: <FER4K03RCuXsBiIlfVNSgR0vilQ@jntp> <v6raq4$31qsh$1@dont-email.me> <CDCWsXoiHhSeIJy4YS7qQQhcHf8@jntp> <v6v2l5$3pri7$1@dont-email.me> <LS4aWQk6smoI8nPu6CSU96H5gYQ@jntp> <v710l9$7u9s$1@dont-email.me> <h2wfltG60Qx3kQd2ONdS3W4MJKs@jntp> <v71c86$a0te$1@dont-email.me> <fCidXYmBeggYm31OO1-5v64V0S8@jntp> <v736bn$mo0c$1@dont-email.me> Newsgroups: sci.physics.relativity JNTP-HashClient: w9GAvpqe8rItfIUH1phTa2SyJaU JNTP-ThreadID: sxhQQgyUgiiv6OcO_6O_beeL7bk JNTP-Uri: http://news2.nemoweb.net/?DataID=pV0qtTN3r2yVQMsv7JmcdoOdDzE@jntp User-Agent: Nemo/0.999a JNTP-OriginServer: news2.nemoweb.net Date: Mon, 15 Jul 24 18:17:46 +0000 Organization: Nemoweb JNTP-Browser: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 10.0; Win64; x64) AppleWebKit/537.36 (KHTML, like Gecko) Chrome/126.0.0.0 Safari/537.36 Injection-Info: news2.nemoweb.net; posting-host="e8cbf2474b472b9bb79db3dccb6a856bc1d05409"; logging-data="2024-07-15T18:17:46Z/8949703"; posting-account="4@news2.nemoweb.net"; mail-complaints-to="julien.arlandis@gmail.com" JNTP-ProtocolVersion: 0.21.1 JNTP-Server: PhpNemoServer/0.94.5 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-JNTP-JsonNewsGateway: 0.96 From: Richard Hachel <r.hachel@wanadou.fr> Bytes: 3274 Lines: 48 Le 15/07/2024 à 14:57, "Paul.B.Andersen" a écrit : > Den 14.07.2024 23:49, skrev Richard Hachel: > The scenario is: > > Terrence is inertial. > Stella passes Terrence with the speed 0.8c relative to Terrence. > At the instant when Stella is adjacent to Terrence they both set > their clocks to zero, and Stella starts her rocket engine so that > she accelerates at the constant acceleration c per year (≈ 0.97g) > towards Terrence. > Some time later, Stella will again pass Terrence at the speed 0.8c. > > The only question I want answered is: > What do Stella's clock and Terrence's clock show > at the instant when Stella passes Terence the second time? > > It's two invariant proper times, so they are "absolute". Well. I hadn't understood the question correctly, and I thought it was the question: Stella goes to 0.8c, and immediately Terrence sends Bella (a=1al/an²) to join her. The question was when will Bella join Stella, and where? The answer is quite simple, since we have x=Vo.To and x=(c²/a)[sqrt(1+To²a²/c²)-1] Let for x=x, two root possibilities To=0 and To=40/9 years And x=0 (the start) and x=32/9 ly. It remains to be seen what the clean times will be for Stella and Bella. I'm responding hastily, and I hope without any miscalculation. Tr(Stella)=sqrt(To²-Et²)=sqrt(To²-x²/c²)=24/9 years Other mode Tr(Stella)=To.sqrt(1-Vo²/c²)=24/9 years Tr(Bella)=x/Vr=x.sqrt(1-Vo²/c²)/Vo=(32/9)*0.6/0.8=24/9 years We notice that here, the proper times are equal. But that's not what you're asking, your question is: "As Stella passes Vo=0.8c, it accelerates towards the earth (a=1 ly/y²)" I ask you for a few moments, and I will answer you. R.H.