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From: Nux Vomica <nv@linux.rocks> Subject: Re: The First Distro To Offer XLibre Newsgroups: comp.os.linux.advocacy References: <184d439321081200$22529$367819$802601b3@news.usenetexpress.com> <103t4h0$1gnjn$1@solani.org> <103thsr$22ifd$4@dont-email.me> <103u32s$1haki$1@solani.org> <pan$41a33$85d637b3$46d41771$6eeb831a@linux.rocks> <103v4g5$1i0el$1@solani.org> <pan$502a7$9a033e0b$84df9ea2$2b98bde4@linux.rocks> <1040spg$1j3oj$1@solani.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: <pan$425be$ff9c60f9$9af8e67a$4e711781@linux.rocks> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Lines: 52 Path: nntp.eternal-september.org!news.eternal-september.org!eternal-september.org!feeder3.eternal-september.org!usenet.blueworldhosting.com!diablo1.usenet.blueworldhosting.com!feeder.usenetexpress.com!tr1.iad1.usenetexpress.com!news.usenetexpress.com!not-for-mail Date: Tue, 01 Jul 2025 15:35:58 +0000 Nntp-Posting-Date: Tue, 01 Jul 2025 15:35:58 +0000 X-Received-Bytes: 2117 Organization: UsenetExpress - www.usenetexpress.com X-Complaints-To: abuse@usenetexpress.com On Tue, 1 Jul 2025 20:23:37 +0530, Not Necessary wrote: > > For init scripts with generic configurations, they require udev in > kernel space to manage devices. > No they do not. They only do so now because of the despotic decisions by the mainstream distros. X11 now requires libinput for keyboard/mouse control which in turn requires udev. Formerly, udev was only just another option until the mainstream distros enforced their delusions of "modernity." > > Otherwise, all your devices are static, > As they damn well should be. For a personal workstation static devices are the most sensible choice. But the mainstream distros have managed to quash that choice. > > and you've lost the ability to use simple USB drives without > re-booting! > No you haven't. If one understands how the kernel works it is very straightforward to develop scripts that can handle "pluggable" USB devices. I understand the kernel. You do not. > > Systemd is the successor to udev. > No it isn't. Systemd is an advancement in complexity only for the sake of an advancement. Systemd does nothing that many other things cannot do. Systemd has only seduced the mainstream distros which, regrettably, control most of GNU/Linux development. -- Systemd: solving all the problems that you never knew you had.