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Subject: Re: Finally long term stable high density storage
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On Sun, 20 Oct 2024 09:51:49 -0700, Dimensional Traveler wrote:

> On 10/20/2024 9:41 AM, Spalls Hurgenson wrote:
>> On Sun, 20 Oct 2024 08:48:16 -0700, Justisaur <justisaur@gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>> 
>> 
>>> 360 TB 1+ B years
>>> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/5D_optical_data_storage
>> 
>> The tech has been around... well, Wiki says it was first demonstrated
>> in '96. "Finally" is a bit of a misnomer. ;-)
>> 
>> IIRC, though, it has several downsides. Biggest is that it is extremely
>> slow with writes (and pretty slow with reads too). And even if it had
>> "HDD-speed" read/writes... well, back-of-the-napkin math indicates it
>> would still take close to 3 DAYS to read all that data (about half that
>> if it were SSD speed). We'd need advancement in the IO first to really
>> make use of drives that big.
>> 
>> It's also write-once, which limits its use to archival. So it's not
>> gonna replace HDDs or SDDs any time soon.
>> 
>> 
>>> Now Spalls can fit all his games on one disk about the size of a
>>> quarter and not worry it's going to die of bit rot.
>> 
>> I've over the years transferred pretty much all of my DOS-era games to
>> HDD (twice actually; first as images of the original medium, and then a
>> second time to a different HDD where the games are actually installed).
>> The installed games takes significantly less than a single terabyte,
>> and that collection includes probably every DOS game you've ever heard
>> of (and a few more too ;-)
>> 
>> Disk-space is so cheap and readily available already that -while I
>> wouldn't sneeze at a long-term archival medium- it's not really
>> necessary. It's surprisingly hard to fill up multi-terabyte sized disks
>> under ordinary usage ;-)
>> 
> "Hold my beer."  ;)

$ df -h -t nfs4
Filesystem                    Size  Used Avail Use% Mounted on
192.168.23.12:/volume1/ds      39T   26T   13T  68% /nfs/ds
192.168.23.12:/volume1/music   39T   26T   13T  68% /nfs/music

Space is getting a little worrisome, but I have a new Synology filer
sitting in its box, as well as drives.  Just haven't gotten a round tuit.

Most of /nfs/ds is backups of my workstations throughout the years.
My music collection is flac ripped from CD's, which I often lose track
of...

However, there is this:

_[/nfs/ds/scott/src/OS]_(scott@lm)🐧_
$ du -hs
853G	.

850G of built Linux kernels.  (I'm a digital hoarder,
and having an NAS hasn't helped.)

-- 
-Scott System76 Thelio Mega v1.1 x86_64 NVIDIA RTX 3090 Ti
   OS: Linux 6.11.4 Release: Mint 21.3 Mem: 258G
   "An ounce of application is worth a ton of abstraction."