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Subject: Re: What is "local time"?
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On 10/23/2024 05:28 AM, gharnagel wrote:
> On Wed, 23 Oct 2024 5:56:19 +0000, Maciej Wozniak wrote:
>>
>> W dniu 23.10.2024 o 05:57, gharnagel pisze:
>> >
>> > Does everything happen at once?  No, it doesn't.  Did
>> > the invention of clocks keep everything from happening
>> > at once?  No, it didn't.
>>
>>
>> Sure, sure - time(i.e. "what clocks indicate")
>> had nothing in common with that.
>
> Dishonest Wozniak dis-invented the rest :-)
>
>> > Did humans invent time so everything doesn't
>> > happen at once?  No, they didn't.
>
> Which refutes Wozniak's baloney-filled assertion
> that time is strictly a human invention.
>
>> > "'Seeing pink elephants' is a euphemism for hallucinations
>> > caused by delirium tremens or alcoholic hallucinosis,
>> > especially the former."
>> >
>> > Wozniak needs to lay off the booze.
>>
>> slander
>> noun [ C or U ]
>> uk  /ˈslɑːn.dər/ us  /ˈslæn.dɚ/
>> a false spoken statement about someone that
>> damages their reputation, or the making of
>> such a statement.
>
> Wolowitz has no proof that it's slander.
>
>> BTW:
>> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/White_elephant_(animal)
>> I was a bit mistaken about real elephants never
>> pink. Time - part of nature is rather like
>> purple elephants.
>
> Of course there are no pink elephants.  They only exist
> in Willowwisp's besotted imagination :-)
>
>> > > Anyway, it never existed. Just like "rigid rod".
>> >
>> > More irrelevant bool poop.  Much of Wozniak's beloved
>> > "information" that he fondles doesn't exist, either.
>> > Apparently, he doesn't believe in maps
>>
>> What is apparent to an utter relativistic idiot doesn't
>> matter.
>
> Whether or not time is solely a human invention has nothing
> to do with relativity. Wimponiak is lying and obfuscating
> in a sorry attempt to misdirect the discussion.
>
>> An assertion is no way an argument,
>
> Which is all Wallowniak has: an assertion, and a refuted
> one at that.
>
>> poor trash.
>
> Wosnistink signs his name again.
>
>> > So Wozniak is wrong that time is ONLY a human invention.
>>
>> Nope. Harnagel is wrong that it isn't. He admits
>> himself - he doesn't know much about the subject -
>> but being a DK idiot he still acts as if he knew
>> everything.
>
> :-))
>
> Does everything happen at once?  No, it doesn't.  Did
> the invention of clocks keep everything from happening
> at once?  No, it didn't.  Did humans invent time so
> everything doesn't happen at once?  No, they didn't.
>
> Wozniak's baloney-filled assertion is refuted.
>
>> > Wozniak is full of merde.  The question of time is MUCH
>> > older that relativity
>>
>> And so is the mistake of your moronic church
>> of physics.
>
> Whether or not time is solely a human invention has nothing
> to do with relativity. Wimponiak is lying and obfuscating
> in a sorry attempt to misdirect the discussion.
>
>> > > Yes, they are. UTC doesn't change for a fast
>> > > observer, other real times neither. Sorry,
>> > > poor trash.
>> >
>> > More attempts to redefine the discussion about relativity.
>> > Complete bull merde (pardon my French).
>>
>> Just pointing some properties of a real time.
>
> Whether or not time is solely a human invention has nothing
> to do with relativity. Wozniliar is obfuscating in a sorry
> attempt to misdirect the discussion.  He does this because
> he can't refute the fact that time has a natural existence.
>
> Stupid, ignorant dishonest Woznichicken can't face the
> arguments presented in honest treatises so he pretends
> they don't exist.  But they do, and they are here again
> to be stuffed down Wozzidissembler's lying mouth:
>
> https://www.quantamagazine.org/what-is-the-nature-of-time-20240229/
>
> Yes, what is the NATURE of time?
>
> https://journals.aps.org/prx/abstract/10.1103/PhysRevX.7.031022
>
> "Autonomous Quantum Clocks: Does Thermodynamics Limit Our Ability
> to Measure Time?"
>
> "our autonomous quantum clock consists of a system out of thermal
> equilibrium—a prerequisite for any system to function as a clock—
> powered by minimal resources, namely, two thermal baths at different
> temperatures. Through a detailed analysis of this specific clock
> model, we find that the laws of thermodynamics dictate a trade-off
> between the amount of dissipated heat and the clock’s performance
> in terms of its accuracy and resolution."
>
> https://www.quantamagazine.org/the-new-science-of-clocks-prompts-questions-about-the-nature-of-time-20210831/
>
>
> "They found that an ideal clock — one that ticks with perfect
> periodicity — would burn an infinite amount of energy and produce
> infinite entropy, which isn’t possible. Thus, the accuracy of
> clocks is fundamentally limited."
>
> Hence, NO real clock can measure the thing called time with
> unlimited accuracy.  IOW, although clocks may be human inventions,
> this thing called time is not.
>
> And since NO clock can measure time with complete accuracy, we
> are free to choose natural clocks with lower accuracy, such as
> the rotation of the earth, its trip around its yearly orbit,
> the half-life of a radioactive nucleus, or any number of natural
> processes.
>
> Not all clocks are human inventions and time is NOT what clocks
> measure anyway since no clock can measure time with complete
> accuracy.
>
> Wozniak won't acknowledge REAL information because he is a
> disinformation manipulator: he is "crafty and mean.  But not
> creative, not truly intelligent." -- Robert A. Heinlein

The "local time" is a reflection for the "point time"
on the "global time" and the "total time", that,
"the time", for example when Einstein in his Relativity
theory describes his definition that in the theory there's
a continuum of space-time and particularly a "the time",
has that largely it's a matter of aether theory, as with
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