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Path: news.eternal-september.org!eternal-september.org!feeder3.eternal-september.org!border-3.nntp.ord.giganews.com!border-4.nntp.ord.giganews.com!nntp.giganews.com!Xl.tags.giganews.com!local-4.nntp.ord.giganews.com!news.giganews.com.POSTED!not-for-mail NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 18 Jun 2025 03:20:18 +0000 Subject: Re: VMS Newsgroups: comp.os.linux.misc References: <wCqdnYde9MIbmND1nZ2dnZfqnPadnZ2d@giganews.com> <102ka4k$9umt$2@dont-email.me> <87tt4i9nw5.fsf@eder.anydns.info> <102l0h9$fjtb$5@dont-email.me> <mb6k3rFlsd2U1@mid.individual.net> <iKicnS3JDZlDo9P1nZ2dnZfqn_ednZ2d@giganews.com> <102lsif$p6mb$1@dont-email.me> <My6dnVtlTfPD8tL1nZ2dnZfqn_GdnZ2d@giganews.com> <7bZ3Q.75589$00L5.68100@fx41.iad> From: c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> Date: Tue, 17 Jun 2025 23:20:24 -0400 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:78.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/78.13.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <7bZ3Q.75589$00L5.68100@fx41.iad> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Language: en-US Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <pc6dnfrmaMLvrc_1nZ2dnZfqn_WdnZ2d@giganews.com> Lines: 32 X-Usenet-Provider: http://www.giganews.com X-Trace: sv3-nrHh2eMCmDg/OVEs11m5zr1jiw79XPtWpFSewTkiCKQnWVjAJin5rojSKbZrw1NKBSVuYD7yZDoAxmG!ktD6wgh9wZjHo9Vd9s0qrohS1Eny6jL48UgVXJ9rY195nBeL5GskzpujWQdW2YqIsNUr8i0MhajN X-Complaints-To: abuse@giganews.com X-DMCA-Notifications: http://www.giganews.com/info/dmca.html X-Abuse-and-DMCA-Info: Please be sure to forward a copy of ALL headers X-Abuse-and-DMCA-Info: Otherwise we will be unable to process your complaint properly X-Postfilter: 1.3.40 On 6/16/25 2:15 PM, Charlie Gibbs wrote: > On 2025-06-16, c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> wrote: > >> Babbage was making his computers using BRASS gears >> and cogs - not bronze or steel. Lovelace didn't >> live long enough to invent VMS alas. >> >> Hmm, how WOULD you network Babbage AEs using the >> tech of the time ? The telegraph was demonstrated >> just a few years after he proposed the AE ... maybe >> a two baud connection ? :-) > > Well, Teletypes managed 110 baud (even 150 on the model 37 > but that was pushing it). I have a 35RO on which I did a > complete adjustment and lubrication schedule according to > the manual. In the process I got a good look at how it > decoded incoming data with nothing more than a honking big > solenoid and a bunch of very clever little cams and pawls. > Pretty awesome, actually. Old telegraphs were interesting - because the data was essentially 'binary' - ones and zeros, contact or not. This made it possible to use simple relays as repeater/amplifiers. Easy 1800s tech. So, in theory, they COULD have networked Babbage Analytical Engines. Very low speed, but it really would have worked. I wonder what protocol Ada would have envisioned ? Babbage was the hardware guy, but Lovelace understood the Full Potential a LOT better.