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Path: ...!Xl.tags.giganews.com!local-2.nntp.ord.giganews.com!news.giganews.com.POSTED!not-for-mail NNTP-Posting-Date: Thu, 13 Jun 2024 00:39:50 +0000 Date: Wed, 12 Jun 2024 20:39:50 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird From: John W Kennedy <john.w.kennedy@gmail.com> Subject: Re: xkcd: Unsolved Chemistry Problems Newsgroups: rec.arts.comics.strips,rec.arts.sf.written References: <v3vu6f$286p2$1@dont-email.me> <v3vvko$28e1i$1@dont-email.me> <v40b01$2a4ek$1@dont-email.me> Content-Language: en-US In-Reply-To: <v40b01$2a4ek$1@dont-email.me> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Message-ID: <peCdnfsm0rtLovf7nZ2dnZfqnPudnZ2d@giganews.com> Lines: 61 X-Usenet-Provider: http://www.giganews.com X-Trace: sv3-AxXC+I8dZt42Xi2vWn6tM9MpeMs6Hkj4P0TOlAXnEtUQnZVBBDD6vbQJKvQTqy3+wQCjIfWgbhgeip6!IYjQFBXBdh+pRFG5JhqGEpihaHOEC/v2pBU4CvUgIFztNo2XcsmU3jKy9sgk5uHn6wYYW29OOeNz X-Complaints-To: abuse@giganews.com X-DMCA-Notifications: http://www.giganews.com/info/dmca.html X-Abuse-and-DMCA-Info: Please be sure to forward a copy of ALL headers X-Abuse-and-DMCA-Info: Otherwise we will be unable to process your complaint properly X-Postfilter: 1.3.40 Bytes: 3371 On 6/7/24 9:09 PM, Peter Fairbrother wrote: > On 07/06/2024 22:55, Your Name wrote: >> On 2024-06-07 21:30:55 +0000, Lynn McGuire said: >>> >>> xkcd: Unsolved Chemistry Problems >>> https://xkcd.com/2943/ >>> >>> Sounds like a good start to me. I fight with ionic chemistry all the >>> time in my job. >>> >>> Explained at: >>> https://www.explainxkcd.com/wiki/index.php/2943:_Unsolved_Chemistry_Problems >>> >>> Lynn >> >> Solved the last one of those: >> >> "The letters pH stand for potential of hydrogen, since pH is >> effectively a measure of the concentration of hydrogen ions >> (that is, protons) in a substance." >> >> :-) > > > SPOILER ALERT > > s'aktually an abbreviation of an abbreviation. It should be p[H+] > > > The "p" is used to denote the decimal negative logarithm of the > following quantity; you can have p(tons of concrete) or p(the number of > atoms in the universe), though I don't know why you might want to. > > The square brackets nowadays mean the concentration of whatever is > inside them in moles per liter, ie [H+] is the concentration of hydrogen > ions in a sample. > > And so p[H+] or more commonly pH is the negative logarithm of the > concentration in moles per liter of +ve hydrogen ions in a sample. > > > The "p" does not stand for anything, contrary to many contrary opinions. > Sorenson had the concept of negative logs, but the p in his symbol - a p > with an individualised H subscript - referred to test tube p, with the > unique H subscript meaning the negative log of the concentration of H ions. > > pH was easier to print than (a range of) individualised subscripts, so > quite quickly the p came to mean the negative log of the concentration > of whatever. > > :) He says that he mistrusts H+ ions (which are naked protons). When I was in high school, I’m pretty sure I was taught that it was actually hydronium ions (H₃O+) that were counted. -- John W. Kennedy Algernon Burbage, Lord Roderick, Father Martin, Bishop Baldwin, King Pellinore, Captain Bailey, Merlin -- A Kingdom for a Stage!