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Path: Xl.tags.giganews.com!local-1.nntp.ord.giganews.com!nntp.supernews.com!news.supernews.com.POSTED!not-for-mail NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 15 May 2024 14:29:00 +0000 From: John Larkin <jjSNIPlarkin@highNONOlandtechnology.com> Newsgroups: sci.electronics.design Subject: Re: Dressing RG6 Date: Wed, 15 May 2024 07:27:07 -0700 Organization: Highland Tech Reply-To: xx@yy.com Message-ID: <pfh94j988bateu0ugvf4qlttqovhc6lnn8@4ax.com> References: <v204qu$99qs$1@dont-email.me> <v206dp$9pib$1@dont-email.me> <v20ads$aoqc$1@dont-email.me> <20240514b@crcomp.net> <66h74j1vfmbjvvl98jk1k017pimtinv2l5@4ax.com> <v20m3q$dgcq$1@dont-email.me> <v20n97$dq6r$1@dont-email.me> <20240514d@crcomp.net> <v21tl5$pcju$1@dont-email.me> X-Newsreader: Forte Agent 3.1/32.783 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Lines: 52 X-Trace: sv3-bdwiDe8Ns+DoILC1CCScvPuMk2TdXFk7799WNpCQirseBTxvzXgEMsjujfqdVClGCzfhZW1Hui+5lyS!7F+yF6VcRNnOG/IXyzWD8dpT7wz1GJDrEAdqb5pITnqJh25jQq1zP67xa7y3Ett5OlRZuaexTedF!nXmrQg== X-Complaints-To: www.supernews.com/docs/abuse.html X-DMCA-Complaints-To: www.supernews.com/docs/dmca.html X-Abuse-and-DMCA-Info: Please be sure to forward a copy of ALL headers X-Abuse-and-DMCA-Info: Otherwise we will be unable to process your complaint properly X-Postfilter: 1.3.40 Bytes: 3248 On Wed, 15 May 2024 11:03:22 +0200, Jeroen Belleman <jeroen@nospam.please> wrote: >On 5/15/24 01:33, Don wrote: >> Jeroen Belleman wrote: >>> Phil Hobbs wrote: >>>> John Larkin wrote: >>>>> Don wrote: >> >> <snip> >> >>>>>> The parasitic capacitance created between coax and its metal armor can >>>>>> open a Pandora's box of potential problems. >>>>> >>>>> Capacitance between the coax outer and the copper pipe? Proper coax >>>>> shouldn't have any external field. >>>> >>>> If the whole system is really coaxial, that’s true. Leaky shields, ground >>>> loops, and so on, will modify that. >>>> >>>> Depending on the application, you may or may not care. >>>> If the whole system is really coaxial, that’s true. Leaky shields, ground >>>> loops, and so on, will modify that. >>>> >>>> Depending on the application, you may or may not care. >>> >>> I've been putting coax inside copper tubes or braids to measure >>> and/or reduce the transfer impedance (leakage). I did that to >>> measure small signals in a particle accelerator, which typically >>> has kicker magnets and RF cavities with kA currents and kV >>> voltages nearby. >>> >>> A colleague developed a special low transfer impedance coax >>> cable for this sort of application. It had two screens with >>> intermediate magnetic shielding. It was unpleasant to work >>> with, because part of the magnetic shielding was a steel >>> spiral foil tape that was razor sharp. But it worked really >>> well. >> >> Empirical observation always trumps theory for me. Did you ground [1] >> the copper tubes or braids? > >Both ends were connected to the connector shields. The point of >the exercise was to reduce transfer impedance, which at low >frequency (<1MHz) is simply proportional to screen resistance. > >Jeroen Belleman Two parallel coaxes can make an attenuator. What was the coupled frequency response like?